Posted on 08/16/2013 7:59:53 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Lincoln's "actions were unconstitutional and he knew it," writes Napolitano, for "the rights of the states to secede from the Union . . . [are] clearly implicit in the Constitution, since it was the states that ratified the Constitution . . ." Lincoln's view "was a far departure from the approach of Thomas Jefferson, who recognized states' rights above those of the Union." Judge Napolitano also reminds his readers that the issue of using force to keep a state in the union was in fact debated -- and rejected -- at the Constitutional Convention as part of the "Virginia Plan."
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I think it is better to discuss history with people with less emotional investment. I can see both arguments as valid on this particular debate.
So, who wants to discuss the Manchu dynasty?
:p
That might be an oversimplification, but since it was the final result it's true enough.
As far as an implied secession option in the constitution. Since Southern states were forced to ratify the 14th and 15th amendments to be admitted back in the Union after the war, it certainly seems like they had effectively opted out previously.
Well, you can count me out. That wound is still way too fresh for most of us. ;-)
Who were the Republicans on the side of the Confederacy?
lol
Actually I found out that they changed their name to Manchu from Jerchin or Jurchin or something like that, I guess they absorbed enough area and people to need a change
I’m not Chinese, but I have some very “Manchuvian” desires. I can’t even get the family dog to kowtow for me, though.
I bet it was Jeff Davis under Lincoln’s mind control, that was forced to act as an eeevilll Republican when he ordered Beauregard to fire on Ft. Sumter.
they were never out of the union. They had to ratify the various amendments to regain self government after their insurrection.
I watched Charleston Heston’s Boxer Rebellion piece recently.
“55 Days at Peking.”
"The Civil War caused in part by Chief Justice Taney's dictum in the Dred Scott case that Congress could not bar slavery from the territories, resulted, of course, in the destruction of slavery. The Thirteenth Amendment formally abolished the institution. The Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments, which the Southern states were forced to ratify in order to get back into the Union, made Blacks citizens, prohibited the states from depriving "all persons" of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, and made it illegal to deny anyone the right to vote "on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude." - Quarrels That Have Shaped the Constitution. 2nd ed
It's my old ConLaw text I just happened to be re-re-reading.
“And that he was a Republican.”
When I was in school they did teach that but it seems that is something that gets dropped now.
Not to be confused with “55 days Peeking at the neighbor”
I bet that was why they changed the name of their cit.y...
Like Burma, Myanmar Shave doesn’t have the same cachet
I suggest your Con-Law text author(s) need to reread Texas v. White.
Yes. It must have been embarrassing to live in the “gelded age”
A Dixiecrat is a Democrat through and through.
Thank you sir. I’m from Kearny NJ. Named after it’s most famous son Union General Phillip J. Kearny, ‘’Hero Of The Wilderness’’.
Dixiecrats didn’t believe in queer “marriage” and murdering the unborn. Hell a difference in a Dixiecrat and any democrat.
No, they just believed in keeping blacks as second-class citizens.
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