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Many in U.S. Army are secret members of Anonymous; more leaks are coming
DC Clothesline ^ | 8/15/13 | Dr. Eowyn

Posted on 08/16/2013 12:28:03 PM PDT by null and void

Many in U.S. Army are secret members of Anonymous; more leaks are coming

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The group-name “Anonymous” refers to a loosely associated, decentralized network of hacktivists – political activists who hack into secured websites, then leak the information free to the public.

The group originated in 2003 on the Internet forum 4chan, representing the concept of many online and offline community users simultaneously existing as an anarchic, digitized global brain. The group became known for a series of well-publicized hacks and denial-of-service attacks on government, religious, and corporate websites, including U.S. and Israeli government agencies, the Church of Scientology, child porn sites, PayPal, Mastercard, Visa, and military contractors.

Supporters have called the group “freedom fighters” and digital Robin Hoods, but critics have described them as “a cyber lynch-mob” or “cyber terrorists”. In 2012, Time magazine called Anonymous one of the “100 most influential people” in the world.

Anonymous members (known as “Anons”) can be distinguished in public by the wearing of stylised Guy Fawkes masks. Guy Fawkes is the best-known member of the Gunpowder Plot, an attempt to blow up the British House of Lords in London in 1605.

Now a member of Anonymous, who is an active-duty captain in the U.S. Army, has given an interview to BuzzFeed, anonymously of course. He claims that there are many Anons in the U.S. military, including middle- to high-ranking NCOs (non-commissioned officers), who are profoundly alienated from the military. He promises that more leaks are forthcoming.

H/t ZeroHedge

~Eowyn

Guy Fawkes maskA Guy Fawkes mask on the dashboard is just one way this Army captain tips off other soldiers that he’s a fellow member of Anonymous.

Anonymous’ Secret Presence In The U.S. Army

Justine Sharrock interviews the anonymous U.S. Army Anon for BuzzFeed, Aug. 9, 2013.

Are there a lot of members of Anonymous in the Army?
There are more than you would think, more heavily in the techie world [of the military] — especially at Fort Huachuca [U.S. Army installation in S.E. Arizona], where all the intel people are. A lot of them wanted to get the job [there] because they want to learn secret stuff and have a better personal understanding of how the world actually works.

How do you know who is in Anonymous?
Initially we have the handshaking phase. The lingo is still relatively unknown. In conversation, you drop in jokes. If you are with someone on a mission, you’re like, “Man, there are over 9,000 reasons that this is a bad idea.” That initially establishes friendship. Once you feel comfortable with the person and they aren’t just posing as part of the culture, then you talk about what they’ve done and how much a part of it they are. It gets to the point where you are discussing individual operations.

What are the most popular operations amongst soldiers?
Anonymous is so distributed and leaderless that everyone has operations they love and hate. Operation Cartel, especially at Fort Bliss [in El Paso, Texas].Operation Dark Net was universally loved. And Operation Payback was pretty well received.

What about you?
I was involved in the Arab Spring opening up internet communications. I was a facilitator for a lot of people who have more skills than me in the cyber world. I knew people who I met through 4chan, 9Chan, and 7Chan and then a lot of AnonOps IRCs and who they needed to talk to — the organizations that would help them, and people in government would give them resources and access — and was able to convince them to talk to people in Anonymous. I got people in the right [internet relay chat] rooms at the right time.

Would the military consider you a white or black hat?
The military sees me as black hat.

Is that a fair assessment?
All hats are gray. Every white hacker I know has a night job that is very much a black-hat job.

What were the results of what you did for the Arab Spring?
From what I heard they were able to establish ways to assist the activists to have a method where they could get information out of Egypt and have certain Twitter accounts tweet that information on their behalf. But I don’t know for sure. As soon as I was like, “Hey, this is this person,” and vice versa, they did tweet confirmation to make sure that certain Twitter accounts were controlled by certain people, and then I headed out of the room so there would be no “taint” of having a fed there.

Why do Anonymous members outside the military trust you?
My credibility is incredibly suspect in the group. I admit I work for the feds, and I provide information on myself so that they are comfortable. There are people who I only know as screen names but I have put my career in their hands.

What specific actions have other soldiers taken?
There are several [soldiers] I know that probably did things, but I don’t know know that they did. I can legally say, probably under a [lie] detector, I have no proof that they did it. We keep our activities totally separate because at any point in time I can be put in the chair that I can’t lie in. You have to keep the /b/ [4chan’s “Random” board] brotherhood strong.

Does the military know about the Anonymous presence?
Pre-Manning, there were several academic papers put out trying to analyze it and school the leadership. Because the Army is a very top-down organization, they assume that [Anonymous] is too. Leadership wasn’t concerned with it until Manning happened. Then they read everything under the [lens] of what Manning did and it just scared them — scared them blind. They know we are in there and they assume that we are all going to do a Manning or a Snowden.

How have they addressed it?
Every six months you are mandated to get a Threat Awareness and Reporting Procedures Brief. It used to be very much like how to … spot the Iraqi contractor who is pacing off your base. Now it is, “Look at the person at your left and right. Are they espousing social beliefs that don’t line up with Army values? What websites do they go to at work?” With the caveat that it is OK to have political beliefs that are different. You get a heavy-handed feeling.

I have had more than a few officers come up to me and as we are trying to talk about [Anonymous] they are worried, like, “Are you CID [working undercover for the Central Investigative Division]?” Because you always worry about that.

Are the retaliations against Manning and Snowden discouraging Anonymous activity and the desire to leak information?
A lot [of Anonymous members] have been in long enough and are jaded. They are watching as the government comes down harder and harder. There is a growing sense of disdain and hatred because we are complicit in it. There are some secrets that need to be secrets but the stuff [the military] keeps secret just to protect the bottom line — you just feel like you are selling your soul every day. That is a lot of the motivation. Especially for people of the generation that believe that information should be free.

Are we going to see more leaks?
Yes. A lot [of Anonymous members] are mid- to high-rank NCOs. They are well-respected, have connections, and overly large security clearances. A lot of people who are part of the [Anonymous] culture are just dying at this point for something to come across their table that isn’t already out there. It is so easy to leak information that if you want to, you can do it.


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To: PLD

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41 posted on 08/16/2013 1:11:12 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: mountainlion

I think it is amazing how none of this sticks to Obama.
It just undermines trust in the establishment Gov.

It is a psychological quandary how people assign it all to a shadow Gov and not to THE Current Gov.

I have never seen anything like it.

Obama could take a **** in the punch bowl in front of everyone.

And the people would drink it up while muttering about Bush, and how he never served punch.


42 posted on 08/16/2013 1:11:49 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: null and void; MestaMachine; LucyT; butterdezillion; shibumi; bgill; HiJinx; ASA Vet; Progov; ...

I find this story sending up yellow/brown flags.

Anonymous has a history of being pro-homo. They have taken their cyber-crayons to several Web organizations in the past for less.

Odinga’s military is now pro-homo, to the point of forcing out those who will not bend over (deliberate choice of words) to the regime. Therefore, they would not attack their own.

Most of the remaining military is interested only in making it to twenty, retiring, and living in their dachas by the lake. Patriotism is passe, a relic of the old days.


43 posted on 08/16/2013 1:12:35 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Utilizer

We had other names LOL


44 posted on 08/16/2013 1:12:44 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: US Navy Vet

All contracts and most crimes are deemed by Statute of Limitations to expire after a period of no greater than ten years.


45 posted on 08/16/2013 1:12:51 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: mylife

Most people have no idea. Even when we were ORDERED to attend when he was planning a base visit, we were warned that hurled objects, to include nouns, verbs, or opinions of any sort would bring dire consequences and retaliations. Extra stress on the “dire” part.


46 posted on 08/16/2013 1:15:57 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Old Sarge
Most of the remaining military is interested only in making it to twenty, retiring,

So then who wins?

47 posted on 08/16/2013 1:16:04 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Utilizer

Indeed. LOL


48 posted on 08/16/2013 1:16:39 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife
Post of the month.
Obama could take a **** in the punch bowl in front of everyone.

And the people would drink it up while muttering about Bush, and how he never served punch.

Entirely too true.
49 posted on 08/16/2013 1:17:13 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: Utilizer

My Oath(s) of Enlistment is NOT and NEVER will be a mere “Contract”! It is a compact with ALL who came before me in wearing the Uniform of my Country with my blood and life if need be.


50 posted on 08/16/2013 1:19:19 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Old Sarge

Who in their right mind would side with Wikileaks or Anonymous?

A proper soldier would make notes, note times, time events.


51 posted on 08/16/2013 1:19:32 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: null and void

As distasteful as it is.


52 posted on 08/16/2013 1:20:22 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I note that the officer’s oath does not mandate following orders.


53 posted on 08/16/2013 1:22:25 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: null and void

They soon learn the unwritten law.

Try to give some unlawful BS orders.
Captain Queeg soon found out.
Ahab too.


54 posted on 08/16/2013 1:25:01 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

And then what?

If you were a CPA and you found the president of the company was embezzling funds, would you report it to the head of the accounting department?


55 posted on 08/16/2013 1:25:04 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: mylife
So then who wins?

In their minds, THEY do.

They get their pensions, benefits, health care for life, and their dachas by the lake. What's not to love?

56 posted on 08/16/2013 1:26:35 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: null and void

Nothing could be more humiliating than being an ensign getting an attitude adjustment from the men.

Except being a butter bar and getting an attitude adjustment from the COB in front of the men.


57 posted on 08/16/2013 1:27:46 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Old Sarge

It is a long war.


58 posted on 08/16/2013 1:28:31 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Aw, now didn’t you get the memo?

The war is over, and al-Qaeda is on the run.

Dear Leader said it, therefore it is so.


59 posted on 08/16/2013 1:29:28 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: null and void

Of course.

WTF are Wikileaks and Anonymous pledged allegiance to?
They are anarchists.


60 posted on 08/16/2013 1:30:45 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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