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Michigan Court of Appeals rules pension issue unconstitutional
WHTC Radio ^ | August 15, 2013

Posted on 08/15/2013 4:42:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

LANSING -- The Michigan Court of Appeals has ruled a law requiring state employees to contribute four-percent of their pay to the pension system is unconstitutional.

An Ingham County Judge said the entire law known as Public Act 264 violated the constitution, but the Appeals Court disagreed sent the issue back to the lower court. They asked the judge to define what parts of the law were valid.

The Appeals Court did agree with the lower court over payment to the pension system saying the state's Civil Service Commission makes those decisions and not the legislature. The law passed in 2011 applied to nearly 18,000 state workers hired before 1997.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: pensions; publicworkers

1 posted on 08/15/2013 4:42:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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I'd rather see it go to the state supreme court.

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2 posted on 08/15/2013 4:46:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What is unconstitutional about asking people to pay for their own stuff?


3 posted on 08/15/2013 4:49:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
here locally, the newspaper just reported that the average compensation for a cop is 87% more than the average regular citizen....and you know what their pensions must be....

I say...stop hiring them....lets go to all volunteer police and firemen......

4 posted on 08/15/2013 4:52:16 PM PDT by cherry
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To: GeronL

I wonder if I could make the case that its constitutional to force the people of Michigan to set aside money for my retirement?

I’m not greedy or anything, I’ll be more than happy with 1/100 of every penny earned in Michigan. I don’t think its unreasonable.


5 posted on 08/15/2013 4:53:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cherry

yup. It is insane.


6 posted on 08/15/2013 5:03:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: cherry

Unfortunately MCOLES (Michigan Commission on Law Enforcement Standards) requires police officers to receive at least minimum wage in order to retain their police powers. This prevents exactly what you suggest.

Understand that Ingham county is the Lansing area, very liberal. Almost all rulings against common sense laws come from one or two judges in Ingham county. The appeals court also ruled to day to support other sensible fiscal matters.


7 posted on 08/15/2013 7:09:58 PM PDT by midcop402
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To: midcop402

Lots of laws requiring law enforcement.

My little town could get rid of our local police department but only if we contracted with the county to patrol. It was supposed to save us money but the cost of the county patrols has nearly reached the same cost as paying our own guys. We’re virtually crime free here as it is.

I did grow up in a town with a part time Constable.


8 posted on 08/15/2013 7:35:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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