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NH Mom Banned from Praying on School Grounds
CBN ^ | August 09, 2013 | CBN

Posted on 08/09/2013 3:28:00 AM PDT by xzins

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Personally, I think the citizens own the school grounds and not the politicians. Therefore, as an adult, I tolerate lots of harmless talk with which I might disagree when I'm on property owned by the public. That is the heart of what the Bill of Rights means by "free speech." Everyone has ideas and expresses them at some point in time. We can employ speech and thought police to make everyone say only approved things, or we can simply admit that it really doesn't harm anyone for folks to express themselves. We just need to accept freedom and, like the adults we're supposed to be, simply get on with life.

Religious speech is even more protected in the constitution. The easiest way to handle religion is not a host of rules and times when its allowed is what the Founders decided. They decided that "free exercise" is the best way to handle religion. Be an adult. Lots of folks have different ideas on these things. Leave them alone. All its doing is voicing ideas.

In short, I think that required neutral speech is a violation of free speech. It is the government forcing an established neutral religion when it involves allowed versus disallowed religious speech or conduct. Leave them alone.

Finally, leaving that sane interpretation of the Constitution and turning to the courts' chaotic interpretation, to the extent they allow other speech by parents at that school in the morning, they are discriminating against religious speech. If that Mom is one of many moms speaking loud enough to be heard prior to school, then it's nobody's business that her mouth is speaking words of prayer instead of words of sports, academics, gossip, or weather. Leave her alone.

1 posted on 08/09/2013 3:28:00 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

Will someone please inform the Nanncy Grace clone of the Freedom From Religion Foundation that the words are “freedom of religion” not “freedom from religion”


2 posted on 08/09/2013 3:31:49 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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She was recently told by school officials that the prayers were not welcome after someone filed a complaint with the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

SEIU rules Concord with an iron fist...none of that G-d stuff will be tolerated here.

3 posted on 08/09/2013 3:36:49 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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They are forcing their secular humanist religion upon us all.


4 posted on 08/09/2013 3:42:36 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: xzins

I wonder if they stopped people from praying at Sandy Hook? Or are we only allowed to pray for the dead, not the living?


5 posted on 08/09/2013 3:44:10 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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The mom is silly for praying because of bullets (cartridges?). The FFRF is criminal for interfering with her constitutional right to the free exercise of religion. If the general public is permitted on school grounds, then we are permitted to pray there, and any legitimate government would recognize that. Unfortunately, we have Obama and his followers - and the FFRF.


6 posted on 08/09/2013 3:44:35 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

> They are forcing their secular humanist religion upon us all.

I wonder if their “superior” intellect realizes this?


7 posted on 08/09/2013 3:44:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Of course; the city of Concord has no trouble whatsoever extorting property taxes from this woman to pay for their indoctrination centers...


8 posted on 08/09/2013 3:45:09 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: xzins

Even if you believe in a separation of church and state, you have to admit this woman is not the state nor is she a church. Neither are students.


9 posted on 08/09/2013 3:50:03 AM PDT by GeronL
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Go to a park, sit on the bench and hold the bible and pray.

Are you violating a separation of church and state?

lolz

of course not

(it doesn’t exist like that anyway)


10 posted on 08/09/2013 3:51:29 AM PDT by GeronL
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She must have forgotten her prayer rug.


11 posted on 08/09/2013 3:57:10 AM PDT by sneakers
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That would have been welcomed by Red Hampshire’s pro-Islamic governor...


12 posted on 08/09/2013 4:00:31 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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It appears that more local Christians are going to start praying on school grounds when indoctrination season ramps up at the end of this month.


13 posted on 08/09/2013 4:02:09 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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Lizarda? What is the baby daddy’s name, Reptileo..


14 posted on 08/09/2013 4:07:03 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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This is NOT an issue of Separation of Church and State.

Freedom From Religion Foundation

There is NO Constitutional basis for what these people are doing.

15 posted on 08/09/2013 4:20:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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We need to go ahead and divide ourselves from those that wish to live under communism and satan.


16 posted on 08/09/2013 4:29:02 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: sneakers

If she had been muslim and done as you say... prayer rug and ass in the air... they would be building her a mosque in the gym and a toilet to wash her feet in.

LLS


17 posted on 08/09/2013 4:30:46 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: xzins

I guess I am in for it again.

I am sure that a woman standing praying aloud every day the kids enter school becomes disturbing to them after a while.

Not sure where she stood or how loud she was but I believe after a while it becomes more like she is haunting the school than doing any good. She becomes a nut case.

I agree with the system here ,it’s a bit like the Hari Krishna’s at the airport.


18 posted on 08/09/2013 4:39:27 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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This is the equivalent of Vito saying to a store owner, “Don’t say anything against Don Corleone!” It is a pressure group using its fellow travelers and the threat of lawsuit to modify behavior of 3rd parties.

Note that the “Freedom from Religion” organization only had to write a letter to the school, likely a canned form letter saying that religion had been seen on school grounds. Probably an already atheistic school administration seized upon that crutch to forbid LEGAL 1st AMENDMENT rights. If questioned, the threat of a lawsuit would be used as justification.

The answer to these radical sectarians like this FFRF and ACLU is to tell them to bring it on. If they got universal blow-back they would exaust their money quickly and be legally insignificant.


19 posted on 08/09/2013 4:42:12 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government governs best when it governs least!)
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What part of “the free exercise” clause regarding religious expression does this school district not understand? No government authority is ordering her to pray. She is free to express her prayers to God any where in this country.


20 posted on 08/09/2013 4:44:55 AM PDT by txrefugee
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