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Marco Rubio's new mission: Win back the Republican Party’s base
The Hill ^ | Monday August 5, 2013

Posted on 08/05/2013 7:13:52 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: stilloftyhenight

Rubio, Ya’ can’t throw us overboard and then expect to make up... we are the ones with principle and we know it when we see it. Our principle doesn’t change ... yours does and you can’t go back to a clean slate every again. You don’t understand Conservatives, or you would never have sided with the left on immigration. You thought you could do that and we’d take you back? You do not know us at all. Principle... Constitution... rule of law.... what do you not understand, Rubio?


81 posted on 08/05/2013 9:27:48 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: LongWayHome

Yep. And now Rubio is attempting to use Mark again, and he let him.

Of course, I will forgive Mark, because he is a damn good man, but I will not ever forgive Rubio.


82 posted on 08/05/2013 9:28:58 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Dead RINO. Can’t be resuscitated.


83 posted on 08/05/2013 9:29:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RitaOK
It happens, for some reason, I read him like a book from the beginning.

Same here. Call it a sixth sense or something, but for some reason I just didn't get what all the hoopla was about this guy.

To me, he looked like your average political climber who just happened to be able to speak our language. He never was convincing to me, although I know lots of other folks were excited about him.

84 posted on 08/05/2013 9:36:19 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ConservaTexan
Fool me once...

Still trying to figure out how to get my last vote for him back.

85 posted on 08/05/2013 9:41:12 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: Nextrush
Beware of Levin a voice is telling me...

Ignore that voice. It's steering you the wrong way on Mark. He's one of the finest patriots in the country.

Rubio stabbed him in the back, too, and it's got to hurt. Mark really tried to believe in him. I think that his infatuation with the man is as done as ours is.

86 posted on 08/05/2013 9:52:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I was never in Rubio’s corner. He never sounded like he was talking from his heart. It sounded like he didn’t believe what he was saying, himself.

I also had reservations about G W Bush in all those 8 years. I liked him.. thought he loved his country... but had some reservations. After obama won the election, Bush never spoke out in his or our defense. The media and obama lied for those 4 years and Bush never spoke up. He could have perhaps prevented obama from being elected. He was the one they all blamed... and Bush never spoke or cleared anything up. And in the next election, perhaps Bush could have prevented that too.. for the people blamed Bush for all that was wrong. NO ONE defended that point. And here we are.

Then after the last election of obama.. Barbara Bush said we should shut up and take it.. obama won. Also, Senior Bush was friendly with both Clinton and Obama. I don’t understand men being able to be friendly with the enemy.


87 posted on 08/05/2013 9:54:09 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Windflier

Rube and Cruz have remarkably similar backgrounds and both articulate. I don’t know why I don’t have that same early doubt of Cruz as with Rube, and hoping I don’t get burned there.


88 posted on 08/05/2013 10:26:41 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Bigtigermike

et tu Rubio.


89 posted on 08/05/2013 10:27:48 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: frnewsjunkie
Bush never spoke out in his or our defense. The media and obama lied for those 4 years and Bush never spoke up. He could have perhaps prevented obama from being elected. He was the one they all blamed... and Bush never spoke or cleared anything up. And in the next election, perhaps Bush could have prevented that too..

You've put your finger squarely on how we came to this point.

Your analysis is correct. George Bush could have stopped the left-wing steam rolling of America if he'd only stood on his hind legs and fought back when the media began their assaults on him in the early 2000s.

I'm not even going to try to grapple with the reasons he failed to respond. I'll just say that he allowed the left to tarnish the Republican party and the conservative right by not fighting back. He was our standard bearer, our voice, and he let them mash us into the ground for eight long years. In my view, that opened the door to the election of a radical leftist like Obama.

We still haven't recovered. Just look at how fractured we are. The Tea Party even owes its existence to the dreadful state of affairs that George Bush personally ushered in through inaction and mistakes.

90 posted on 08/05/2013 10:37:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: man_in_tx

Thanks, that guy is great.

‘Obama doesn’t even have to defend himself. He’s got all kind of lawyers in Congress with Rs next to their names to defend him.’

He hates Pansy, I mean Linda Graham, almost as much as I do. But now I need brain bleach to get that mention of a menage-a-trois between Grahamnesty, Christie Creme and Obama out of my mind.


91 posted on 08/05/2013 10:39:49 PM PDT by Waryone (Anyone who advocates excusing Rubio's lying, traitorous behavior is GOPe.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

We don’t any longer send working Americans, farmers, to Congress, who have to meet a payroll, pay bills, or meet with the banker at the end of the season.

Even Cruz and Rube have to tell the story of their fathers labor and rise to the middle class, in order to relate to the working class electorate.


92 posted on 08/05/2013 10:40:52 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK
I don’t know why I don’t have that same early doubt of Cruz as with Rube, and hoping I don’t get burned there.

I have the same gut instinct about Cruz. Like you, I never had that reaction to Rubio. Maybe it's because Ted's my Senator, and I was much more attentive while he was on the way up, but I don't think so.

Ted's been a true leader for conservative causes since arriving on Capitol Hill. I don't see where Rubio ever did that. Seems to me that he got there, and immediately began falling in with the treason lobby.

I see the exact opposite behavior with Ted Cruz. He's done nothing but step on the toes of the entrenched traitors since he got there.

93 posted on 08/05/2013 10:41:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Look how long it took Tom Coburn to hit bottom and he wrote the book about how DC corrupts conservatives. That is probably as much as we can expect from conservatives in DC, maybe a good 8-10 years before they are total squishes.


94 posted on 08/05/2013 10:43:45 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

I guess the new saying should be, “DC corrupts, and absolute DC corrupts absolutely.”


95 posted on 08/05/2013 10:48:46 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Yes, I started to say there is something of the Lone star in Cruz that seems to run deep. Methinks that speak-out dad of his is
is behind the boy wonder, and is every bit a leader in his own right.


96 posted on 08/05/2013 10:50:30 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Windflier

That is a good one. I’ll try to remember that. I might use it some time too. :p


97 posted on 08/05/2013 10:54:06 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I remember Rand Paul's filibuster. Rubio acted like an idiot during his speech. Seemed odd to me at the time.
He didn't give a crap about what Rand was doing. Just coat-tailing for cheap publicity. Can't change you're beliefs as the wind blows.
98 posted on 08/05/2013 11:41:32 PM PDT by Blacksheep (There are no coincidences......)
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To: Impy; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
The immigration debate is far from over and might be a distant memory by 2016.

I wonder about that. Remember how hard McCain pushed amnesty in 2007, big buddy of McCain, Reid, etc., and just one year later he was the GOP nominee. Rubio has 2 years for voters to forget, assuming that they don't have to try again next year.

Some Freepers have already started trying to make Rubio look good by pointing to Hillary. Kind of like the arguments leftists use:

Leftist: We need a jobs bill.

Me: Like the Porkulus? Solyndra?

Leftist: Bush funded Solyndra too.

Me: I don't care. You don't excuse bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior, let alone keep doing it.

99 posted on 08/06/2013 1:20:07 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Good luck with that, Marco. You will never get my vote.


100 posted on 08/06/2013 1:49:47 AM PDT by AdaGray (Primary Them All)
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