Posted on 07/28/2013 6:13:04 PM PDT by drewh
Sen. Ted Cruz hasnt said whether he has presidential ambitions, but Sunday he won one of the first straw polls for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.
The Texas Republican captured 45 percent of the 504 votes cast by attendees at the Western Conservative Summit, a day after drawing several standing ovations during his luncheon speech at the fourth annual conference.
We shall see what sort of crystal ball summiteers have in awarding that decisive nod to Sen. Ted Cruz, who was so magnificent from this platform, said John Andrews, founder of the Centennial Institute at Colorado Christian University, which hosted the event.
Placing second was Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who delivered the keynote address Friday at the three-day summit, with 13 percent of the vote.
Tied for third were Sen. Rand Paul, Kentucky Republican, and former Rep. Allen B. West, Florida Republican, with 9 percent each. Mr. West was the conferences featured speaker Sunday, while Mr. Paul received the most votes among those on the ballot who didnt attend the conference.
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Please explain how you believe I engaged in double think.
You have no authority to tell us what the law is or what it means.
You are NOBODY, in political or legal terms, or among conservative opinion leaders.
Your opinion is WORTHLESS, and you represent the lunatic fringe.
Ted Cruz is a Natural Born Citizen.
This “Nobody” at least can read for comprehension. And goof ball, I’ve given you a name who has the credentials.
I see no one choose to bite on your silly comment.
See NTW, if desiring a candidate who speaks the truth is
considered extreme to you, perhaps Free Republic isn’t the place you want to hang around. There is nothing extreme about calling out the enemy. Nothing extreme about pointing out the flawed logic in unelected bureaucrates making decisions that effect all of us.
I think those who are extreme, are on the left. You know, the ones who want to defer to the UN for how we should be governed.
Wondering when telling it like it is became extreme?!
Yes I have, you must be a parrot or maybe a word salad machine.
LOL
NAME a living attorney who agrees with your nonsense?
Name a living historian who agrees with your nonsense?
Name an elected official who agrees with your nonsense?
Name Judge who agrees with your nonsense?
Name a conservative leader who agrees with your nonsense?
Cruz is a Natural Born Citizen.
Cruz was a citizen of the United States at the very moment of Birth, that is all that is required.
You have NO authority on your silly side of the argument.
Lincoln was riding over the prairies of Illinois one day a man said to him, “Stranger you’re going to have trouble at Fox River. The bridge is down.” After thinking for a moment, Lincoln said, “Thank you mister but I make it a rule of my life never to cross Fox River until I get to it”
He has not even talked about running for President. Let cross the “Citizenship River” when we get to it.
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Professor Volokh, UCLA Law Prof corrects "Natural Born Citizen" error
Professor Volokh ^ | 12/01/2008 | Autumnraine
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 5:14:39 PM by autumnraine
Hi guys!
"Last week I emailed Prof Volokh after reading him quoted in a National Review article debunking the Certifigate and claiming that due to his mother being a citizen, it would make Obama a citizen even if he was born out of the country.
I googled Prof. Volokh giving him some law information regarding the age of Obama's mother. He emailed me back thanking me and said he has updated his blog. He doesn't doubt Obama was born in Hawaii, but he admits that the matter of IF Obama was born outside the US would make him ineligible by making him not a natural born citizen.
So here is his website.
http://volokh.com/"
It didn’t stop Romney, either.
His folks were born in Mexico.
This is what happens when America is offered a Reagan Republican... not what we have had forced upon us since Reagan.
LLS
Just saying.....
If I'm being rude or paranoid, I know others will tell me.
Just wondering if some folks are joining to start breaking things down.
Beck has stated that his mother and father were citizens at his birth. Being born in Canada has no effect as long as he is born of two American citizen parents. mcnasty was born on Panamanian soil.
LLS
If Cruz wants to run for POTUS, all he needs to do is petition the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) to rule on his eligibility.
There are 4 liberal Justices who will vote to support Cruz since it will exonerate Obama when the truth finally comes out about Kenya (or Canada).
Will there be one conservative Justice who votes to support Cruz’ candidacy? My bet is “YES”.
That action will establish the definition of NBC to mean “born a citizen and not required to naturalize.”
Too bad for you but Ted himself disagrees with your conclusion.
It gets nutty around here especially when there are posters who if you follow their “logic”? he isn’t even a citizen of the United States at all but is Canadian because why?
He was born on the soil.
Tell us, dear expert, what makes him even a citizen as you say?
If he was born in Canada WHAT makes him a citizen at ALL, Mr. expert?
And if you will go down that thinking path a ways, you will find yourself - if honest - rethinking the whole issue of what does it mean to be “natural born”.
In the United States, the current consensus favors the American rule over the European rule and under the American rule, Ted Cruz is clearly a "natural born citizen" because he was a citizen upon his birth to a mother who was a citizen of the United States.
He was born on Canadian soil.
Being all hung up on the magical qualities of soil ownership by country, how do you figure that he is even a citizen?
There are some and I’ve read them here, whose nonsensical notions regarding his Canadian soil birth actually render him not even an American.
Question:
Is he an American?
If yes, on what basis, and did that basis confer on him American citizenship AT BIRTH, or was he required to obtain NATURALIZED citizenship later on, as an adult?
If he is an American and has citizenship by birth and not by obtaining naturalized citizenship, according to Ted Cruz himself and a host of others, that is their understanding of “natural born”.
They believe “natural born” is the opposite of “naturalized”.
That it does not reference soil of birth.
I will mention their understanding, from time to time, but overall I refuse to engage in these useless debates.
He (Cruz) can speak for himself. He knows just a little bit about the law, eh?
I will let him and those who agree with him debate “my side” of this if it ever rises to that level of need.
That of course makes them naturalized FReepers and not natural born FReepers, therefore not eligible to comment on requirements for the Presidency..... :)
I pulled a quote from one of the birthers, that I found ironic considering the cornerstone of their argument is Vattel. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
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