Liberals like Christie are the flies and libertarians are the windshield, here.
So, perpetual warfare for peace.
Your progressive b*st*rds have gutted our military, encouraged an invasion of illegal alien locust, taxed our citizens to redistribute more of our shrinking wealth and called us racist, xenophobic and selfish when we object.
Some of us have become so fed up that we've retired early, gone on disability and even abandoned the ranks of the makers to join the takers. How do you think that is ultimately going to work out for you when TSHTF?
Uhg.
Conservatives need libertarians and libertarians need conservatives.
If we don’t hang together, we shall surely hang separately.
What a bunch of crap.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) ...
He's a Republicrat? I thought he was a Democan.
” - - - He dismissed some of the current privacy/national security debates as “esoteric.”
Yup, Christie believes that the US Federal Government would NEVER do anything to harm those who are TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY.
Seig Heil!
Crispy Creme is again irrelevant and off the mark.
The only reason Libertarians are still around is because idiots like Crispy Creme sadly make them needed as lawyers for the people who have no representation in Congress with RINOs and Democrates running the dungeon of make believe world of DC and continued abuses of power under bigger and bigger government
This desire for exclusive neededness goes so far into the language of dependency as to make us believe that we need Stevie Wonder in Florida for music and self defense, when we can sing ourselves fine without your fascist approvers in the controled private sector. This is the dungeoning and hostaging mentality which aims to make the hostaged feel so incapacitated and demoralized, that they feel they need their captors now.
Libertarians might not be the answer in legislation, but they are certainly so to keep our eyes and spirits open.
I've got a better idea. Why doesn't Gov. Christie explain to the families of all of the people who have been jailed because of New Jersey's firearm laws, or had someone they know murdered because they couldn't defend them with a firearm, why he hasn't done anything to allow the citizens of New Jersey to exercise their right to keep and bear arms?
I'd be happy to explain the position of people opposed to excessive and unwarranted NSA surveillance now to anyone who wants to talk about it. But unlike Gov. Christie, I don't think it is possible to explain anything to the victims of that attack who died on Sept. 11, 2001, and I think the survivors of that awful attack realize that spying on American citizens today can't possibly have any effect on what happened more than 11 years ago.
As to Gov. Christie's apparent belief that spying on all American citizens is somehow useful to detect and prevent future terrorist attacks, I'd like to hear his explanation of why he doesn't seem to support other strategies which are much more likely to enhance our security. Like securing our borders, and enhancing screening and denying entry to people who are likely to be terrorists.
I like the way he misrepresents what I perceive Libertarian beliefs to be.
A true libertarian is not a pacifist, indeed they are probably some of the most vociferous defenders of a military because they realize the need to protect liberty from reach of tyrants
Would a libertarian have been able to stop 9/11? I doubt it. Just like neither the Bush administration nor the Clinton administration could have.
The issue is not what happened. It is what is done about it. Libertarians are not pacifist. They just oppose preemptive invasions
A related issue
I don’t actually blame the invasion of Iraq so much on GW Bush as I do Tony Blair. He had been agitating for an invasion of Iraq since at least 1998 but the UK is too weak to do that and Bill Clinton wouldn’t bite. I don’t think G.W. Bush would have invaded if not for 9/11.
Iraq, or so it appears to me was playing a dangerous game.
I believe the Iraqi government was afraid of Iran and wanted the region to think it had vast stocks of chemical weapons to deter an attack by the Iranians. The Iraqi government knew they were not liked and didn’t think they could count on any help0 from anyone else. (Probably a wise assumption) but by playing games with the inspectors they kept a seed of doubt alive in the minds the Iranian military. I don’t think the Iraqi government thought they would ever be invaded.
Pork Porkie, running for president. Wow. (yawn)
Chris “I helped elected Obama” Christie has a lot of nerve.
I bet he runs as the Hildabeast’s VP in 2016.
When I first read this I thought it said “Christie goes after Librarians — hard”
This is the same Fat Christie who supported the Islamic Terrorist supporting Mosque being built at Ground Zero.....Christie supports the Islamic Terrorists who cheered 9/11
Christie would be a disaster for the US if elected president. Weak elbows and bent knees are bad leadership qualities
>> [Christie] suggesting [libertarians] explain their position to victims of the Sept. 11, 2001
A super-idiotic ‘suggestion’ if that is indeed what Christie intended — there was no active war component at the time.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
A warrant for all communications from all Americans does not qualify for "probable cause" nor does it "particularly describe" the things to be seized. This is completely and totally unacceptable. Any government that would engage in such data collection is illegitimate, and any big government liberal who would support such data collection is un-American.
Why is Gov. Christie afraid of libertarians? Good grief!
Christie is another RINO wolf in sheeps’ clothing.