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Sunspots and the Great Cooling Ahead
American Thinker ^ | July 18, 2013 | Jeffrey Folks

Posted on 07/23/2013 8:15:44 PM PDT by neverdem

Presumably, even among the ill-informed ideologues at the White House, there are a few who have heard of sunspots. There may even be one who knows, as most informed persons do, of the correlation between sunspot activity and the earth's climate. But apparently no one has bothered to inform the president.

When sunspot activity is high, as it was during the 1990s and early 2000s, temperatures tend to be high as well. When it is low, as it is now, temperatures fall. And because sunspot activity occurs in decades-long cycles, the unusually cold winter and spring of 2012 may be just the beginning. As a Barron's article recently noted, current sunspot activity is now the least it has been in a century.

What this means is that the era of global cooling has begun. In the northern hemisphere, three out of the four last winters and springs have been unusually cold. This spring was so cold in East Asia that China was forced to import millions of tons of grain and soybeans from the U.S. and other suppliers.

The environmental elitists in Manhattan and Laguna Beach may not be greatly inconvenienced by cold winters, but ordinary people have to eat, too, and food exhausts a much greater share of their income. For the world's poor, a cold year means the difference between eating and going hungry, or between heating one's home and shivering all winter. Or as the philosopher Thomas Hobbes put it (while living through the thick of the Little Ice Age himself), it's the difference between a life that is warm and comfortable and one that is "nasty, brutish, and short." Because climate alarmists are focused on global warming when they should be concerned with cooling, life for the world's poor is likely to be just that.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; cycle24; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; sunspots
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1 posted on 07/23/2013 8:15:44 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Wait for it...yes...ahem.

WINTER IS COMING

Thanks everyone.


2 posted on 07/23/2013 8:26:37 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: neverdem

Color me stuned.


3 posted on 07/23/2013 8:27:27 PM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: neverdem
And because sunspot activity occurs in decades-long cycles,

11 year cycles, to be exact. Sunspot activity also causes world wide radio communications as well. Ham radio operators love it.

4 posted on 07/23/2013 8:29:37 PM PDT by Mark17 (A creepy a$$ cracker, retiring in the Philippines)
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To: neverdem

As a ham radio operator from the 50s, concentrating on communicating with foreign countries, I lived for sunspot peaks which greatly enhanced bouncing of signals from the ionosphere. The very late 50s, early 60s 11 year cycle, were great for radio propagation. I could cover the entire world, and at the same time. DE: W4EX


5 posted on 07/23/2013 8:35:40 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

I agree. I think the article is a bit over dramatic as sunspot count is near its predicted maximum now (86 predicted / 84 observed). DE KK4NWA


6 posted on 07/23/2013 8:42:28 PM PDT by struggle
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To: neverdem
But apparently no one has bothered to inform the president.

The only people he listens to are voting blocs and donors. The greenie idiots are wailing about climate change and the donors want guaranteed payback on their investments. It's that simple.

7 posted on 07/23/2013 8:55:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: neverdem
Good read on more than the 11 year sunspot cycle.

Cold Sun by John L. Casey
8 posted on 07/23/2013 8:55:59 PM PDT by Delphster
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To: Mark17; AlexW

It is not as simple as the article states. There is a correlation between sunspots and weather variability. It has been know for 100 years.

And it is not consistent on the period of the sunspot activity. Some say 11 years others say 14 years. The honest answer is it varies somewhat. But it is what it is.

BUT, we do not see global cooling or warming due to sunspots, and the effects are delayed. Within the past 12 months we have begun to see sunspots again, after a 3 year long quiet period with almost no sunspots. During that minimum Texas has had a drought and extreme heat that no living humans have seen before. It will pass.

Other places East of us have had floods and cold temps.

So, it is not Warming or Cooling that is caused by the sunspot levels, but variability. Weather is very local in nature.

There are some excellent articles on this and other climate studies on this site.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

These was the best of the sites for climate deniers.


9 posted on 07/23/2013 8:57:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: struggle
I think the article is a bit over dramatic as sunspot count is near its predicted maximum now (86 predicted / 84 observed)

The max is the lowest max in about a century.

10 posted on 07/23/2013 9:09:39 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Bayard

In order to counteract the global cooling effect from solar activity, we should start burning as much fossil fuel as possible, since according to government experts, that causes the planet to warm up.


11 posted on 07/23/2013 9:13:25 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Bayard
WINTER IS COMING

Time to start knapping an obsidian blade.

12 posted on 07/23/2013 9:30:00 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: generally
In order to counteract the global cooling effect from solar activity, we should start burning as much fossil fuel as possible, since according to government experts, that causes the planet to warm up.

COAL IS THE ANSWER!

13 posted on 07/23/2013 9:37:48 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: Stentor
In case you wait too long. ;)

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14 posted on 07/23/2013 9:44:38 PM PDT by Errant
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To: FreeReign

I understand that, and I hope we’re not headed for a ice age, but it’s human stupidity (corn/ethanol subsidies, regs, EPA) that are the real trouble.


15 posted on 07/23/2013 9:54:24 PM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle
Not to worry....King Obama is on top of this...like a laser....

Welcome King Barack "Canute" Obama the Great.....

...Obama issues an Executive Order to the Sun...

....to increase it's magnetic field....

and make a good crop of sunspots before elections in 2016....

(PhysOrg.com) -- Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2016 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades.

The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years.

Good luck surviving with no electricity and GE modified seeds.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news203746768.html#jCp

16 posted on 07/23/2013 9:59:35 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Texas Fossil
I do love the http://wattsupwiththat.com/ and http://www.icecap.us/ web pages. Obviously you frequent those types of sites and are very well informed and I agree with what you wrote.

I agree that there are so many influences on the climate that it seems foolish to focus on any one to predict future outcomes. However the correlation between recorded sun spot activity and recorded temperatures and historical events is much greater than random noise. And actually considering that nearly all of the warmists climate models have now been shown to be worse than random noise... that actually is somewhat impressive.

The Old Farmer's Almanac has been using sunspot activity in its “secret formula” to predict the climate since 1792. They have a much better track record than our current batch of “top government climate scientists”. I think that is pretty funny.

You are correct also that local and regional weather phenomena such as the drought that you mentioned are related to a myriad of factors that make them nearly impossible to predict more than a month or two out with reasonable accuracy.

Also the conglomerate historical surface temperature record is not necessarily accurate enough to draw good conclusions from. There are a number of problems such as siting issues and possibly more importantly those who are responsible for keeping the records have been known to “adjust” and manipulate the data in ways that support the conclusions that they want to advance.

“During that minimum Texas has had a drought and extreme heat that no living humans have seen before.”

I am not sure if that is an accurate statement or not.
There are most likely people in Texas who lived through the 1930s a time which was very likely as hot and dry as it was during the last few years. But I write this as someone who has spent the past 50 some years in a much cooler part of the country so I really have no way of knowing. It sounds like it has been really, really miserable down there though.

17 posted on 07/23/2013 10:01:46 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: spokeshave
Lots of graphs etc on this earlier thread....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3046580/posts?page=41

18 posted on 07/23/2013 10:01:49 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Errant

Think I found the guy who makes them. Thanks.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 10:10:07 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Texas Fossil; Mark17; AlexW
And it is not consistent on the period of the sunspot activity. Some say 11 years others say 14 years. The honest answer is it varies somewhat. But it is what it is.

Amateur radio operator here too. BTW, I have couple of old Radio Handbooks from the 1930s to the 1950's and they mention there is a larger 22 year cycle too as well as one Freeper said a while back where he even heard of an 88 year cycle.
20 posted on 07/23/2013 10:13:33 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("We have met the enemy, he is us!" - Pogo Possum - 1971)
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