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Stand Your Ground law critics push for Florida boycott
Miami Herald ^ | Jul. 17, 2013 | Jim Turner

Posted on 07/17/2013 4:56:27 PM PDT by neverdem

Critics of the state’s "stand your ground" law and Saturday’s acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of teen Trayvon Martin hope to make Florida pay.

Their message as they implore state lawmakers to change the law: Don’t travel to Florida, and don’t buy Florida oranges and other Sunshine State products.

The drumbeat of opposition has quickly grown on social media, while a group camps outside Gov. Rick Scott’s office in the Capitol demanding action against the law that remains strongly supported by Florida’s Republican leaders.

Meanwhile, negative perceptions of the state have been fostered on venues such as the faux news program, "The Daily Show," which has labeled Florida "the worst state." A sister program, "The Colbert Report," added that Florida "apparently no longer has rules or laws."

Scott, while traveling to cable media outlets in the New York area Tuesday, expressed "hope" that boycotts don’t work.

Business groups preferred to quietly wait to see how the public perception plays out rather than stoking the issue by commenting.

An Orlando area hospitality expert said Wednesday that in looking at similarly proposed boycotts, such as the reaction in Arizona to its stringent 2010 immigration law, there may be little economic dent unless groups start to cancel long-planned conferences.

"Within the next couple of weeks, if any major conferences are canceled, then you start to worry," said Abraham Pizam, dean of the University of Central Florida’s Rosen College of Hospitality Management.

In Arizona, opponents of the immigration law hoped their boycott would result in empty convention centers and sports venues. While a few musicians and business groups stayed out of the state, the Associated Press estimated that by the end of 2010 the state had taken a $145 million hit.

The Center for American Progress, a Washington, D.C.-based liberal policy group, projected that Arizona’s convention business was down $45 million in the first four months after the law was enacted.

"If you have a beef with the ’stand your ground’ law, there are 19 other states that have the law as well," Pizam said.

But in the court of public opinion, the beef right now is with Florida.

Music legend Stevie Wonder says he will boycott Florida until the state abolishes the controversial law that allows a person to use force, "including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself." Wonder has also called for fans to support his boycott.

During an NAACP convention in Orlando on Wednesday, Martin Luther King III, the eldest son of slain civil-rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr., proposed a boycott of Florida orange juice.

Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam was not immediately available for comment Wednesday, according to his spokeswoman.

Zimmerman was found not guilty Saturday by a six woman jury that deliberated more than 15 hours over two days in the racially charged case. Zimmerman, 29, claimed self-defense in the February 2012 death of Martin, 17. Prosecutors contended that Zimmerman profiled and followed Martin.

While Zimmerman’s attorney didn’t raise the stand-your-ground law as a defense, the jury instructions advised that Zimmerman could be acquitted if they deemed he wasn’t engaged in an unlawful activity as "he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force."

The reaction to the case has reached the Facebook page for Visit Florida, the state’s tourism arm. Under photos promoting the state’s sunny vistas, people are posting messages such as, "I will make an effort to boycott all Florida products and to spread the word until this situation is fixed." Meanwhile, other comments are critical of protesters, with one saying, "to all African-Americans boycotting Florida … Please don’t stop! It’s is much more pleasant here without you."

Meanwhile, Moveon, a liberal public policy advocacy group, has started a petition drive calling for a boycott of tourism to Florida until the law is overturned.

"If the murder of Trayvon Martin isn’t enough to get lawmakers’ attention, maybe a loss in revenue to the state would be," Moveon said in an email seeking signatures.

Asked about a boycott having an impact on the state’s important hospitality sector, Scott said during an appearance Tuesday on CNBC’s "Mad Money that he hopes not.

Scott, whose office deferred comment to his statements during the CNBC interview, pointed to the state’s reduced crime rate as evidence of efforts to keep Florida safe.

"We are having record tourism, 91 million tourists last year, two record years in a row, we’re on track, up about 4 percent last year, so we’re heading in the right direction," Scott said.

Officials from Visit Florida did not return requests for comment Wednesday.

Scott’s beliefs hadn’t stopped more than 8,800 people from signing the Moveon petition by Wednesday afternoon.

"If my sons are not safe in Florida against gun-toting vigilantes, then neither is my money," wrote Kimberly Melancon of Atlanta on the petition.

"How about boycotting their produce as well?" added petition signer Judith Cahill of El Prado, N.M.

On Twitter and Facebook a number of hashtags — #BoycottFlorida, #BoycottFloridaTourism and #NotFlorida — have been created in support of boycotting Florida over the Zimmerman ruling.

Julius Denson, a Moveon member from Temple Terrace, promoted another petition that simply seeks to amend the law so an individual would be prevented from "pursuing another person and being able to claim self-defense."

"It is completely irresponsible and dangerous to have such an ambiguous law in place that doesn’t consider the full circumstance of a given situation," Denson stated in a release.

A task force created by Scott last year to review the state’s 2005 "stand your ground" law recommended that the law not be overturned and suggested only a few minor tweaks.

Pizam said most boycotts in reaction to court rulings or new state laws in the past haven’t had a significant impact.

"For one, you might see those on the other side show their support for Florida, which could help balance things," Pizam said. "And even those who think about boycotting realize sooner or later that this is collective punishment and collective punishment hits innocent bystanders."

Pizam noted that Florida’s tourism industry did suffer about an 8 percent drop in visitors after nine tourists were killed in 1993, but the impact didn’t last long, even with the worldwide attention heightened by screaming British tabloid headlines and the Philadelphia Daily News declaring "The Sunshine State becomes a State of Terror."

"That was a significant crime against tourists, violent crimes, but in time people forgot it," Pizam.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; standyourground; trayvonmartin
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To: cripplecreek

My home state of Texas is probably less restrictive than is Florida’s laws. We can use deadly force to defend a perfect stranger from a deadly threat, among other liberties.


21 posted on 07/17/2013 5:12:48 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey.)
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To: cripplecreek

surprised MS,AL, VA does not have the laws, no surprise the north socialist east minus NH does not have it.


22 posted on 07/17/2013 5:13:33 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: neverdem

Great idea, stay away from Florida, it means it will be easier for us to find a parking place at the shopping centers, no waiting on line at the restaurants, plenty of room at the beach, no boisterous activities and no arrogant obnoxious and rude people from the NE trying to tell us what is good for us. So we got guns, so what? Mostly good law abiding people have them, we don’t go around robbing 7 11s, we don’t pretend to be Dirty Harry, or Paul Kersey either. A large number of us are Veterans, and we are no threat to anyone other than someone who is threatening to harm us. You might say we got each others back when that 911 response is too slow to arrive.


23 posted on 07/17/2013 5:17:04 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: lormand

“My home state of Texas is probably less restrictive than is Florida’s laws. We can use deadly force to defend a perfect stranger from a deadly threat, among other liberties.”

Same as Florida. Also, little chance of SYG changing in Florida. After the “incident”, there was a push by the same group to take away the SYG provisions. Didn’t happen, during the last legislative session the legislature toyed with open carry...didn’t pass, but there’s always hope next year.


24 posted on 07/17/2013 5:18:31 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: lormand
Deadly force to protect others is also codefied in Florida law too.

"776.031 Use of force in defense of others.—A person is justified in the use of force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate the other’s trespass on, or other tortious or criminal interference with, either real property other than a dwelling or personal property, lawfully in his or her possession or in the possession of another who is a member of his or her immediate family or household or of a person whose property he or she has a legal duty to protect. However, the person is justified in the use of deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person does not have a duty to retreat if the person is in a place where he or she has a right to be."

25 posted on 07/17/2013 5:19:49 PM PDT by Cannoneer (The purpose of power is to maintain power.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I like your attitude.


26 posted on 07/17/2013 5:21:20 PM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: manc
I think this is more current from the (Brady campaign)

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27 posted on 07/17/2013 5:21:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: neverdem
This is truly a win-win. These are the people we don't want here anyway, and they don't want to be here. Well done!

I would take it one step farther: People who live in Florida but would boycott the state if they lived somewhere else....should leave! win-win-win!!

28 posted on 07/17/2013 5:22:04 PM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the list of states I can think about going to.


29 posted on 07/17/2013 5:23:06 PM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: neverdem

So the criminal class is going to boycott Florida. What’s the downside?


30 posted on 07/17/2013 5:23:48 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: cripplecreek

thanks , there are still a couple of states I ma surprised about , AR, WY, VA, CO


31 posted on 07/17/2013 5:24:43 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the map. I was looking for a list, 22 states on an old map!


32 posted on 07/17/2013 5:24:55 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Cannoneer
Michigan

Sec. 2. (1) An individual who has not or is not engaged in the commission of a crime at the time he or she uses deadly force may use deadly force against another individual anywhere he or she has the legal right to be with no duty to retreat if either of the following applies: (a) The individual honestly and reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the imminent death of or imminent great bodily harm to himself or herself or to another individual. (b) The individual honestly and reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the imminent sexual assault of himself or herself or of another individual. (2) An individual who has not or is not engaged in the commission of a crime at the time he or she uses force other than deadly force may use force other than deadly force against another individual anywhere he or she has the legal right to be with no duty to retreat if he or she honestly and reasonably believes that the use of that force is necessary to defend himself or herself or another individual from the imminent unlawful use of force by another individual.

Seems to me that its time to challenge Moveon to put up or shut up.
33 posted on 07/17/2013 5:26:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: neverdem; All
Blacks benefit from Florida ‘Stand Your Ground’ law at disproportionate rate
34 posted on 07/17/2013 5:30:18 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the update!


35 posted on 07/17/2013 5:31:13 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: RedMDer

Thanks for the link!


36 posted on 07/17/2013 5:32:41 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Duckdog

In Indiana, we can even Stand Our Ground against a cop that illegally busts through the door


37 posted on 07/17/2013 5:34:31 PM PDT by digger48
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To: neverdem

MSM Idiots ... Florida is safer for tourists due to so many residents carrying.

In fact, there might be more non-residents with carry permit issues from Florida than residents!
Those non-resident permit holders will most certainly visit and vacation in Florida even more now.


38 posted on 07/17/2013 5:36:39 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: neverdem

Wonder has also called for fans to support his boycott.

I disagree with Wonder and in retaliation, I am sending him back the eight track tapes that I have of his music.
It has been that long since he has been relevant.


39 posted on 07/17/2013 5:37:27 PM PDT by coldbluesteel
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To: neverdem

Just doing my little part :)


40 posted on 07/17/2013 5:38:52 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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