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Due to Increased Regulations, Millions of Americans Abroad Forced to Reconsider U.S. Citizenship
The Weekly Standard ^ | 17 July, 2013 | DANIEL HALPER

Posted on 07/17/2013 12:33:53 PM PDT by Errant

The Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, or Fatca, is forcing millions of Americans living abroad to reconsider their U.S. citizenship, a lawyer, Colleen Graffy, writes in the Wall Street Journal.

"The legislation is Fatca, the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act. To appreciate its breathtaking scope along with America's unique "citizen-based" tax practices, imagine this: You were born in California, moved to New York for education or work, fell in love, married and had children. Even though you have faithfully paid taxes in New York and haven't lived in California for 25 years, suppose California law required that you also file your taxes there because you were born there. Though you may never have held a bank account in California, you must report all of your financial holdings to the State of California. Are you a signatory on your spouse's account? Then you must declare his bank accounts too. Your children, now adults, have never been west of the Mississippi but they too must file their taxes in both California and New York and report any bank accounts they or their spouses may have because they are considered Californians by virtue of one parent's birthplace," Graffy explains.

"Extrapolate that example to the six million U.S. citizens living around the globe. Many, if not most, don't know about these requirements. Yet they face fines, penalties and interest for not complying—even if they owe no U.S. taxes, own no U.S. property, have no U.S. bank account and haven't lived there in years—if ever.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: citizenship; expats; fatca; irs; slave; tyranny
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This has got to be unconstitutional. Eliminate freaking damn income tax and this is fixed automatically.
1 posted on 07/17/2013 12:33:53 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

It is so sad to see US Citizenship descend from a prized asset to an oppressive liability.


2 posted on 07/17/2013 12:40:50 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Errant

We also have the reverse here.

My wife, a Canadian, has to report her Canadian savings account as does the bank up there. If not, they BOTH will be boycotted by the Treasury Dept.

Thank you Dodd-Frank.


3 posted on 07/17/2013 12:42:57 PM PDT by llevrok (We are in a new Cold War. At home.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“The Flag still stands for Freedom, and they can’t take that away....” but they are rapidly working on taking all else away.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 12:44:09 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: llevrok

My canadian GF was supposed to file for citizenship IF Romney won but that’s now out of the question.


5 posted on 07/17/2013 12:44:39 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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Wow! that is astounding.

I guess the only thing to do is find a way to fake your own death, steal an identity and go underground.

6 posted on 07/17/2013 12:45:38 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Hieronymus

“Freedom stands for nothing left to lose...” - Joplin


7 posted on 07/17/2013 12:45:48 PM PDT by Errant
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My canadian GF was supposed to file for citizenship IF Romney won but that’s now out of the question.

Good thing then; Romney, politically speaking, is Obama.

8 posted on 07/17/2013 12:46:01 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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fake your own death

Can't do that either, the government gets half of everything you owned.

9 posted on 07/17/2013 12:46:56 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Just to tell the US Fedgov to shove it. Better yet, just hide your assets and ignore them. Not that I’m encouraging anyone to break US laws, just saying what they could do.


10 posted on 07/17/2013 12:49:19 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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"Can't do that either, the government gets half of everything you owned."

Not if you're an expatriate and cash out.

11 posted on 07/17/2013 12:52:17 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Errant

Gangster government. There is no other term for it.


12 posted on 07/17/2013 12:53:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: A Navy Vet

Some foreign banks are actually telling their expatriate American citizen customers that their accounts must be closed. The foreign banks cannot reasonably or economically comply with this US law, and do not wish to risk the penalties.

The simplest answer for them is simply to accept no US citizen customers.

The US is notorious around the world for breathtaking hubris and overreach, and this is yet another example.


13 posted on 07/17/2013 12:56:22 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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I'm thinking it's about time that about 100 million+ people should just stop filing tax returns.

If a few thousand do it, they will get you. If a few hundred thousand do it, they might get you. If a few million do it, you're doing something right out of Saul Alinsky - overwhelming the system.

Hey, the current POTUS has been using that principle successfully, why can't it work for everyone?

14 posted on 07/17/2013 1:00:13 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Errant

If I were able to come into a huge windfall of cash, I’d be out of this country in a flash.


15 posted on 07/17/2013 1:00:41 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: Errant

The laws were made at a time when most Americans cherished their American citizenship. Along came 0bama - and highly productive people are no longer interested in being Americans.


16 posted on 07/17/2013 1:01:47 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: Errant
Ahem.

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose, ...Pearl

17 posted on 07/17/2013 1:02:48 PM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: Errant
Graffy argues that because of the difficulty in following this law -- it's easier and more attractive for Americans abroad to simply renounce their U.S. citizenship.

More attractive? Ms. Graffy should 'argue' for herself.

My citizenship means more to me than money. This law is unfair and should be changed. But give up my U.S. citizenship? No way. I'm keeping it - and if someone wants to try to take it from me, they will have to obtain it the same way they can take my guns...

18 posted on 07/17/2013 1:03:06 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: John Valentine

The US has put up the economic equivalent of the “Berlin Wall”.


19 posted on 07/17/2013 1:03:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kitchen

Didn’t Kris Kristofferson actually write that?


20 posted on 07/17/2013 1:04:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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