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Open season on black boys after a verdict like this
The Guardian ^ | July 14, 2013 | Gary Younge in Chicago

Posted on 07/14/2013 4:10:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 07/14/2013 4:16:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Let it be noted that on this day, Saturday 13 July 2013, it was still deemed legal in the US to chase and then shoot dead an unarmed young black man on his way home from the store because you didn't like the look of him.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blackkk; blackmales; blacks; delusional; florida; georgezimmerman; offtheirrocker; racialists; takeyourmeds; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think Gary Younge (understandably perhaps) overplays the racial aspect of the case and lets himself be carried away with hyperbole - thus missing a calmer analysis of the legal implications. As many commentators have pointed out (under the original Guardian article) the jury gave their verdict based not on the probabilities of what happened, but on whether or not the state had made its case beyond reasonable doubt. We were not in the jury room, and trial by media is always ugly (but usually only called as such when one disagrees with the media position).

But there is a vital legal issue which this touches on, and which can be rationally and calmly analysed but which of course will never be discussed in the US media, and maybe not even here in the UK, but which to my mind is essential to this case - and that is gun control. I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that it is only the idiotically lax laws on the carrying and use of guns in the US which allow a killer, which Zimmerman undoubtedly is, to walk free.

Here in the UK we cannot (legally) carry guns, so such a case is unimaginable. But we can (and I sometimes do) legally carry a sword - but only under very strict conditions: you don't actually need a license, but the weapon must be kept in a locked case while being transported, you must be travelling directly from your home to your place of practise or demonstration (or back), and you must not have any alcohol or other drugs in you.

If the US had such sensible laws applied to guns (which need no training to use - any fool can kill someone with a gun) - then it would have been beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman was guilty, as, after calling the police and being told not to intervene, he left his vehicle to follow Martin. What exactly happened once they encountered each other (and even the fact that Zimmerman was on medication) is irrelevant. Carrying a weapon, Zimmerman diverted from his path and went towards a possible confrontation, and as a result someone died when he used that weapon. In the UK he would not have escaped the consequences of that decision.

Think the author is a blithering idiot? Read this comment from a British reader.

Sure if the US had “common sense” gun laws like Britain poor little Martin would be alive and Zimmerman would be dead and all would be right with the world. /S

81 posted on 07/14/2013 4:53:19 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Bryanw92
Yep, and the aggressor forgot that white people pack heat in Florida.

Do people really still say that?
And did they ever really say that, except in 70's tv shows?


82 posted on 07/14/2013 4:54:09 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

Yeah, I’ve heard a few white libs say the N word (or the equivalent) in private. More than one might expect view blacks as a necessary evil, so to speak. Don’t like them, but pander to them to defeat Republicans. Which, besides being racist, is dumb, because Republicans are aces at losing. It’s what they do best. It’s their goal.


83 posted on 07/14/2013 4:55:36 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Back to England, where Fusilier Lee Rigby was buried a few days ago. Maybe if the English had not imported a Muslim and maybe if Rigby had been carrying, he would not be in the ground now.
All we ask of you is do not preach to us or we will force you to take back Piers Morgan.


84 posted on 07/14/2013 4:56:05 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: mylife

I want one!


85 posted on 07/14/2013 4:56:50 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: Rebelbase

Me too!


86 posted on 07/14/2013 4:58:00 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: OSHA

No, but you can’t set your blind up over a baited field


87 posted on 07/14/2013 4:59:50 PM PDT by technically right
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To: mylife

Yep, because they come from the butt of Broncobama’s unicorns!


88 posted on 07/14/2013 5:00:41 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: dandiegirl
Sharpton said yesterday he's on his way to Florida - something about suing Z. He is such as POS and stirs up racial hatred every chance he gets.
89 posted on 07/14/2013 5:00:45 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: mountn man

>>Do people really still say that?
>>And did they ever really say that, except in 70’s tv shows?

I grew up in the 70’s so the culture affected my speech. I usually use that figure of speech when I’m talking tongue-in-cheek about carrying a gun. I often forget about the FR Broomstick(tm).


90 posted on 07/14/2013 5:00:50 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: BenLurkin

The sun will rise tomorrow and countless other black youths will have been murdered....by other blacks.


91 posted on 07/14/2013 5:00:53 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Marcella

Sharpton is trying hard to stay relevant. He’s beginning to look like the complete fool that he is.


92 posted on 07/14/2013 5:05:13 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The stupid. It hurts.


93 posted on 07/14/2013 5:10:14 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Morgana

Was waiting for THIS to show up! Thank you!


94 posted on 07/14/2013 5:17:02 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Man, I read the comments on the article and it’s obvious there’s no point even discussing the matter with many of the writers. They look at the facts and come to a completely different conclusion. They see a man following a boy with a gun and shooting him. They don’t care that TM was beating GZ’s head into the ground. Zimmerman was carrying a gun and shot TM and he is guilty. End of story. There is no way that it can be anything other than Murder. There is absolutely no swaying them from that point of view.
I guess it’s not even worth trying to discuss it with some people.

Of course, the fact that many of them are British doesn’t lend much to their knowledge of the subject of self-defense.


95 posted on 07/14/2013 5:17:26 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Bryanw92

“>>minding his own business armed only with a can of iced tea and a bag of Skittles”

I wonder which skittle broke Zimmerman’s nose. Skittles do that, you know.


96 posted on 07/14/2013 5:17:45 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh, if ‘black boys’ are smashing innocent peoples heads off of the pavement, then you bet your ass it’s open season on them!!!


97 posted on 07/14/2013 5:25:31 PM PDT by Fedupwithit (You gave him what he wanted. I gave him what he needed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Given the number of them that are worthless thugs, I’d say that it’s about time. Don’t stop with the black ones though, get rid of all the punks.


98 posted on 07/14/2013 5:27:52 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: servo1969

I was out with friends from work last night when the flaming lib checked her phone, found out the verdict and started swearing like a sailor about it. The fun was immediately ruined and the party broke up shortly after since we were all upset and embarassed by her tirade. Does not know one single fact of the case. She knows three things 1. (half) white guy 2. gun 3. black ‘kid’ dead. there is nothing on heaven or earth that would convince her that Zimmerman shouldn’ty have been drawn and quartered immediately without a trial.


99 posted on 07/14/2013 5:30:03 PM PDT by usmom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Open season? Not on all of them.

Just the Thug Life, “no limit n*ggas” who enjoy a boisterous round of the Knock Out Game or a hearty polar bear hunt.

Y’all are on notice. Play time is over.


100 posted on 07/14/2013 5:32:20 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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