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State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman Self-defense is not a crime: VERDICT WATCH.
annettekblog.wordpress ^ | July 12, 2013 | annettek

Posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

I pray for a fair and just verdict. My support and thoughts go out to the Zimmerman family and the defense team as we wait.

Links to Live Streams (Thanks Carole):

WAT~ http://wildabouttrial.com/trial_videos/watch-the-george-zimmerman-hearing-live/

Local WFTV~ http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream//

Click Orlando~ http://www.clickorlando.com/news/-/1637132/19533480/-/fm5b93z/-/index.html

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; chickjuryhesscrewed; florida; georgezimmerman; liveverdictwatch; livezimmermanjury; martin; trayvon; trayvonmartin; ursulathev; zimmerman; zot
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To: toldyou; P-Marlowe

My husband and I both head him say “Yes, Your Honor”


1,841 posted on 07/13/2013 4:06:04 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: shalom aleichem
If they find manslaughter is it an mandatory sentence?Thanks.
1,842 posted on 07/13/2013 4:06:26 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: PapaBear3625

YES!!


1,843 posted on 07/13/2013 4:06:27 PM PDT by Humal
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To: Fawn
How is that NOT clear to the jury? Do you think they would possibly believe he wasn't getting the crap beat out of him?? Why do you say it's not good.

Reading the instructions, posted just a little further up in this thread, to the jury on Manslaughter I understand completely why it wouldn't be clear.
1,844 posted on 07/13/2013 4:06:58 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: ripley

It’s Florida law and it is in the jury instructions for this case.


1,845 posted on 07/13/2013 4:07:18 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: over3Owithabrain

true, could be anything. but we know that at this point there’s at least one who doesn’t buy the self defense. a bit troubling for the defense.

the thing is the manslaughter instructions have nothing to do with self defense.

either you believe it was or you don’t.

it all comes down to “did the state prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he wasn’t acting in self defense.”

shouldn’t be that hard to determine after 3 weeks of a trial and 10 hours of deliberation.

I’d have had an answer within 5 seconds of deliberations starting.


1,846 posted on 07/13/2013 4:07:21 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Toespi

Off topic - I just realized I’m out of sugar and had to put a couple of jelly candies in my coffee to sweeten. Does that make it purple drank?


1,847 posted on 07/13/2013 4:07:24 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: P-Marlowe

Proving:

Looks aren’t everything.


1,848 posted on 07/13/2013 4:07:40 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: CedarDave

Thx. I love trains and need a little clickety-clack.


1,849 posted on 07/13/2013 4:07:52 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Just add cough syrup.


1,850 posted on 07/13/2013 4:08:09 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Mouton

not really. it was pretty clear Romney was going to lose for a while before the actual election day. not squite the same scenario.


1,851 posted on 07/13/2013 4:08:34 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: NautiNurse

All communications with the jury go through both counsel.


1,852 posted on 07/13/2013 4:08:35 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Gator113

“Now Fox has frog voice (Susan Estrich) screeching away. Grrrrrr”

I have a big problem with female screeching voices. I cannot understand how some of these women are hired when their voices are so darn irritating. I have noticed this in commercials also.


1,853 posted on 07/13/2013 4:08:54 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Uncle Chip

All six would have to defect, in order to convict. A “stealth juror” would result in a hung jury.


1,854 posted on 07/13/2013 4:09:21 PM PDT by IChing
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To: ripley
Question:
The judge “permits” the jury to consider a lesser charge of manslaughter. Does this mean the jury HAS to consider manslaughter? Can the jury come back with a Not Guilty on M2...period?
1,855 posted on 07/13/2013 4:09:25 PM PDT by Axelsrd
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To: Uncle Chip

There would have to be six. Not possible. The stealth juror won’t be very popular. When confronted with all the evidence the jury didn’t get to see, she’ll be very small.


1,856 posted on 07/13/2013 4:09:30 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: kristinn; All

Maybe she shouldn’t have written it in cursive?!!!!


1,857 posted on 07/13/2013 4:09:47 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Actually, when I got sick with a cold my mom used to give me a mix if whiskey, lemon juice and honey. Might want to try that first.


1,858 posted on 07/13/2013 4:09:57 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: All

{{{V3 blows nose...sniffs a few times...makes concerted effort to compose herself}}}

Pardon my emotional outburst.


1,859 posted on 07/13/2013 4:10:16 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Uncle Chip

a point of clarification (just jumping in, sorry if already covered earlier)

If the jury were organized in its deliberations, would it not first determine if the act satisfied the lesser of the two charges — that is, manslaughter? and then go on to consider murder only if manslaughter were satisfied.

the instructions list the charges in decreasing severity: first, murder, then second, manslaughter.

so the jury instructions would seem passively to encourage unorganized thinking.

if the jury first considers murder, and acquits Z, then if the jury next considers manslaughter, a lurking M sympathizer would jump at the chance to convict, claiming manslaughter a reasonable compromise. However, this would be illogical if the elements of manslaughter were included in the elements of murder.


1,860 posted on 07/13/2013 4:10:19 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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