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State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman Self-defense is not a crime: VERDICT WATCH.
annettekblog.wordpress ^ | July 12, 2013 | annettek

Posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: RummyChick

Could the jury question(s) be ,”whats the sentence for manslaughter?”


1,821 posted on 07/13/2013 4:02:55 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I seriously doubt he is thinking about the last presidential election.


1,822 posted on 07/13/2013 4:02:57 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: RummyChick; All
Sides and judge agree on response to jury. Judge rewrote so question would be in one handwriting and sends to jury.

Judge says jury ordered dinner offers sides one hour break. West says let's wait a few in case jury responds. Judge agrees, 15 minute recess.

Mark Njame on CFNews 13 notes prosecutor John Guy looks like a nervous wreck after being so confident yesterday.

1,823 posted on 07/13/2013 4:02:59 PM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: RoosterRedux
That said, I am burned out on this case and need a week off to recuperate.

Will be joining MOM and West and their families on respite next week (of course, I was not invited nor have I advised them of such as yet...Bill Shatner and I have invited Morgan Fairchild to join us in this well-deserved vacation).;-)

Watch these web cams - they will take you back 75 years to a simpler time and lower your blood pressure...

The Saturday evening 5:30 eastbound train is getting ready to leave.

1,824 posted on 07/13/2013 4:03:01 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Toespi

And another break.

Good thing AMC has been showing all the Death Wish movies back-to-back all day. Need something to put me in a good mood...


1,825 posted on 07/13/2013 4:03:02 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: viaveritasvita

Bless your heart, it is a very trying time. God is here no matter what happens. He still guides this ship even tho it seems like those of us who cry out to Him have not been heard lately. We know He does hear even if things do not go our way in this trial. Stay under Gods wing....I know you will.


1,826 posted on 07/13/2013 4:03:13 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Proud mommy on homepage....)
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To: Fawn

That lawyer is a liberal.


1,827 posted on 07/13/2013 4:03:28 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: House Atreides
" MOM had to tell the Judge that that might be a good idea in case the jury had a quick question."

Wasn't that something. I think you are right. She just wanted to get on with eating.

1,828 posted on 07/13/2013 4:03:50 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: t1b8zs

I don’t recall the fact that they are not allowed to know the sentence for manslaughter being in the jury instructions.

So maybe they don’t know that that is a verboten question.

Let’s see if they ask it.


1,829 posted on 07/13/2013 4:03:51 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: jeltz25

It could be one juror not wanting acquittal. The others could be working one step at a time to get them to see the light. We don’t know. But I remain encouraged


1,830 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:00 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Point well taken.


1,831 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:16 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Conserev1

I have read numerous FReepers saying they have heard BOTH coming from Z. BOTH, your honor, and, yes sir. I have definitely heard the “yes sir”. No doubt in my mind what I heard. The two do not sound alike when you try to run them off quickly one after another. They just don’t. This was discussed at some length on prior days’ thread.


1,832 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:17 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: clintonh8r

i don’t understand why the jury can’t know what the sentencing is. that’s a huge deal.

If, say they think it’s only a few years they might not see it as a big deal and go for that because at least he doesn’t walk away clean. “he did something, give him a few years”

if they know it’s 30 yrs or something like that that could change the calculus.


1,833 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:19 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: mkleesma

Just like on election night, at 8 and after the first returns came in, I went to dinner because I did not want to see the result.

I will read it in the AM in the paper. It is not going to be good for GZ.


1,834 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:21 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Bronzy

Manslaughter is an automatically included lessor charge to 2nd degree murder in Florida. The Florida Supreme Court stand jury instructions include it. The Prosecution may ask to have the lessor charge excluded. They did not. The Defense asked to have it stricken from the jury instructions. The Prosecution argued for it. Manslaughter instructions were not unexpected by the Defense.


1,835 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:32 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Playing tricks on us the video comes in and goes out!


1,836 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:45 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: StarFan

SHe was just on fox, mousy brown hair....if I see her again, I;ll grab her name for you. BUt, she was really confident that Acquittal was off the table.


1,837 posted on 07/13/2013 4:04:46 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Toespi

The main charge of 2nd degree murder is off the table to these jurors, based upon their focused question. Now it remains to be seen if they can agree on the self defense aspect and acquit George. The Police Chief at the time of the incident, after reviewing the input from his detectives and looking at the evidence concluded George did a righteous shoot. I can only hope these six women see that reality also. Their question indicates to my old mind that they are eliminating obstructions to reaching a not guilty on all charges verdict.


1,838 posted on 07/13/2013 4:05:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: RummyChick

No matter what, this is not good. I will repeat, all they want to know is if they ignore all the facts and evidence, and then settle on the compromise, even though they know GZ is not guilty of manslaughter or Murder 2, how many years is he going to prison? If it is only 5-10 and eligible for parole, well okay, lets go home.

Sad thing is that they will not get the question they want in order to assuage their guilt, answered.


1,839 posted on 07/13/2013 4:05:26 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: IChing
The only way Zimmerman is not completely acquitted is if there is a deliberate, conscious decision by the jury to go against the law and their instructions.

Yep -- a stealth juror.

1,840 posted on 07/13/2013 4:05:56 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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