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Judge Nelson throws OUT 'child abuse' felony murder charge
June 11, 2013 | CivilWarBrewing

Posted on 07/11/2013 10:08:00 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing

Judge Nelson has ruled AGAINST the prosecution for their attempt at a jury instruction for felony manslaughter based on 'child abuse'.


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KEYWORDS: 3rddegreemurder; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; trial; zimmerman; zimmermantrial
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To: rockabyebaby

She has ruled against the defense on many issues the defense should reasonably have won. The prosecution has thrown in some preposterous things that, in my opinion, they knew they would lose just so they can point to such denials as showing she was being fair - after all she had ruled against them several times. This is not even handed justice, she clearly is against Zimmerman and wants to see a conviction - but also wants some sort of record to argue she wasn’t a prosecution stooge.


61 posted on 07/11/2013 10:33:25 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: cuban leaf

Yup. Does not feel like America.


62 posted on 07/11/2013 10:34:02 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Is she out gal now, or what?!


63 posted on 07/11/2013 10:34:22 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

When I heard that the State wanted child abuse 3rd degree murder, I thought, “How many bites of the apple do they get?” One other observation I had, there have been comments by the talking heads that Zimmerman should have announced to Martin that he was neighborhood watch, or that he was armed, etc. etc. which would have defused the confrontation. These “experts” obviously have never been in a situation like this. They seem to think that Zimmerman would have had all the time in the world to do that. No way...Zimmerman would have seconds from the time that Martin appeared in front of him in the dark till Martin played the “knockout game.” This trial should be required watching for anyone considering ccw. I took an advanced course from Insights and this exact scenario was taught to the class.


64 posted on 07/11/2013 10:34:56 AM PDT by W.Lee ("Nobody throws me my own gun and says run...nobody.")
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To: DonkeyBonker

BUT she told the jury they could rule on a lesser charge of manslaughter, which he is not charged with.


Meh. In florida it comes with the murder 2 charge. And I wouldn’t worry. Though it lowers the bar, the bar would have to drop to the floor for them to get a conviction. Not only is their reasonable doubt, but anyone watching this trial would just naturally assume taht Z simply defended himself from a serious physical attacker. Case closed.


65 posted on 07/11/2013 10:35:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Wiser now

Good. I was thinking the idea was straight from the DOJ. It would have been automatic grounds for appeal, I think, since the defense never had time to prepare for that charge.


When the defense attorney was arguing against it, she kept looking at her laptop like she was reading something. I wonder what was on that screen...


66 posted on 07/11/2013 10:35:37 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: kevkrom

No to manslaughter, according to Judge Alex who has said this over and over again, in Florida Manslaughter, since a gun was used and the “victim” was under 18 its an automatic 30 year sentence


67 posted on 07/11/2013 10:36:23 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sender
AMEN
we are WATCHING


68 posted on 07/11/2013 10:36:37 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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To: CivilWarBrewing

The events in this trial almost seem to be following hour-by-hour coverage and blowback in the media. Not good!


69 posted on 07/11/2013 10:37:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
When the defense attorney was arguing against it, she kept looking at her laptop like she was reading something. I wonder what was on that screen...

It could just have been an electronic copy of the state's motion.

70 posted on 07/11/2013 10:37:40 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

The prosecution, spurred on by the ‘justice’ department, was desperate to get Zim and didn’t care if they looked like the racist a$$holes they are.


71 posted on 07/11/2013 10:38:12 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: swamprebel

“Don’t go to Florida, that is the message from all this
publicity.”

The criminal justice system of Florida, including City of Sanford, after soberly considering the evidence, declined charging Zimmerman with ANY crime. That this trial even occurred at all is due to pressure from the Obama Admin. and the Racial Animus Agitation Industry.


72 posted on 07/11/2013 10:39:10 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: W.Lee

Didn’t TM tell him that he was going to die tonight? Or at least indicated that he was going to really hurt him badly. That right there puts GZ in self-defense.


73 posted on 07/11/2013 10:39:18 AM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: Raycpa

I would think not...double jeopardy and all, but with Holder in the game I wouldn’t put it past him to try.


74 posted on 07/11/2013 10:39:30 AM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: Slyfox
Is that the New Thinner Al Sharptongue at that table?

75 posted on 07/11/2013 10:39:35 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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To: DonkeyBonker
"BUT she told the jury they could rule on a lesser charge of manslaughter, which he is not charged with. He should be a free man."

I don't know if murder 2 is considered a capital offense, but if it is, the Supreme Court has ruled that a jury MUST have the option of ruling for a lesser charge (manslaughter). The reason is that the court did not want juries to have to choose between a guilty verdict that they were unsure of and simply setting someone free, so it gives them a middle ground. The judge probably threw out the child abuse thing because it is a different type of crime than murder and not simply a lesser charge.
76 posted on 07/11/2013 10:39:49 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: LibertyOh

Judge Andrew Napolitano was on Fox yesterday saying that the judge should have stopped the case when they could not present any facts to support their claims. This is truly a kangaroo court.


77 posted on 07/11/2013 10:40:30 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Slyfox

LOL!


78 posted on 07/11/2013 10:40:55 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: swamprebel

It is not Florida’s fault, they dismissed charges. This is FEDGOV stepping in where it does not belong (ONCE AGAIN).


79 posted on 07/11/2013 10:42:05 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

She is still an incompetent for disallowing the Trayvon Mrtin text messages - which establish a clear pattern of prior MMA assaults.


80 posted on 07/11/2013 10:42:20 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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