Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements

The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

[don-o]

It may not be in the instructions but it sure will be in closing.

I am curious as to how far defense can go in dealing with the additional included charges in their closing? Would they be able to make any reference to the eleventh hour nature, esp if third degree is added?

[Jack Black]

Time for a ....

WHITE RIOT - The Clash

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own

Black man gotta lot a problems
But they don't mind throwing a brick
White people go to school
Where they teach you how to be thick

An' everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
An' nobody wants
To go to jail!

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
All the power's in the hands
Of people rich enough to buy it

While we walk the street
Too chicken to even try it

Everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
Nobody wants
To go to jail!

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own

Are you taking over
Or are you taking orders?
Are you going backwards
Or are you going forwards?

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own

[NKP_Vet]

Mark Fuhrman said last night that the State has not presented any witness that proved their case, or helped their case.
It is a conjecture. He predicts an acquittal or hung jury.
He also said the jury could be pressured in convicting Zimmerman because they fear for their lives.

[patriotspride]

Yes. But it’s done after the defense has presented it’s last witness. This so-called judge makes up law or ignores the law. Not instructing the jury that it is not illegal to follow someone is just one of the reasons this so-called
judge should be kicked off the bench.

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Question.

Can O Mara simply state something to the effect that it’s not illegal to follow in his closing ?

[JPX2011]

And I totally agree with you. That’s why this question of 3rd degree murder/child abuse is so contentious. It’s adding that new element you’re talking about. The example I read is larceny vs. robbery. Larceny is the illegal taking of property and roberry is using force to commit the act of larceny. So a jury instruction could say, “Well, if you don’t find they used force, you can still find they took illegally.”

[House Atreides]

This child abuse outrage...opens the floodgates for “children” to do violence as they please. Define “child!!”
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In the current context I would define “child” as “Yutes”.

[Elle Bee]

Where is MOM????

I would guess he's prepping his closing argument

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[Sacajaweau]

He's keeping himself out of the heat of battle. It's like keeping his course "pure". He's practicing and practicing.

Like he has said before.....It is what it is. We'll deal with it.

[JPX2011]

Thank you for the correction. I appreciate it.

[Fawn]

WOW...3rd degree denied!

[JPX2011]

MOM is there and the judge just denied prosecution request for 3rd degree murder charge...YES!

[noexcuses]

Yes!!!! No 3rd degree!!

[RoosterRedux]

Judge takes out 3rd degree felony murder!

[don-o]

Natalie Tolomeo @NatalieTolomeo

Court back in session. Mantei finds 2 ADDITONAL CASE LAWS supporting 3rd degree felony murder w child abuse.

Judge kills the 3rd degree charge!!!

[Raebie]

child support/3rd degree felony murder out. Color me shocked.

[gov_bean_ counter]

Shock.

[Spunky]

"They will convict of something if there are enough charges, especially six women who want to appease the mob or punish GZ for something because the FEEL bad for TM’s parents."

I have seen this repeated over and over during this trial. I object to this characterization. I am a female and was on a jury about a DUI/Hit and run. Even though we ALL felt the person was guilty the Prosecution could NOT prove the defendant was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, because testimony by the police said when they got to her home she was drinking there. So they could not prove she was guilty of a DUI at the time she hit a parked car. Had they separated the two charges we would have found her guilty of hit and run, but they were not 2 separate charges.

Give women some credit.

It is my opinion IF it was left at the second degree murder charge he would be found NOT GUILTY. If all the other charges are added it is my opinion it will be a HUNG JURY.

Judge just now ruled out the charge of child abuse.

[SE Mom]

Praise GOD ...she’s not going for child abuse.

[Anti-Hillary]

Thank God!!!!!!!

[JPX2011]

Thank GOD for some intellectual honesty from this judge!