Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.
From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on authentication. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. Shes a rigid ideologue, but shes not stupid this was intentional.
By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.
As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.
The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents texts and pictures and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesnt work that way.
If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.
She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors but she chose the one destined to fail, authentication. She gave it away.
In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say welcome to the party pal.
if any of you would like to have some fun there is a facebook page called “being liberal” that has a martin/zimmerman going. it’s pure stupidity from hysterical liberals. i’d go trolling, but after 30 seconds of looking at it i realized i’d be hours commenting on all the stupidity.
if anyone finds a video of Bernie going La la la and skipping in the court let me know. I dont want to sit through the whole thing again to find it,.
I've made that observation many times. When he was on his back, the blood was running UP his nose.
LOL!
How about:
“I give him one simple command, ‘don’t use the f word,’ and he blows it. I’m surrounded by slavering dolts who can’t follow a simple command from their master.”
From my understanding, to prove manslaughter one the state must prove not only that a person died who would not have done so had the defendant not performed some action which a prudent person would not have done, but also that a prudent person would have regarded the death as a foreseeable consequence of such action. I don't think that applies here.
Also, I wonder whether the defendant should be entitled to bring up the "clean hands" doctrine. To the extent that TM brought the physical confrontation upon himself, the responsibility for its consequences should lie with him rather than GZ. The state should not merely have to prove that GZ was at least "somewhat" culpable, but also that his culpability substantially exceeded that of TM. Even if the state could meet the first hurdle, there's no way it meets the second.
Also, how can anyone believe that Zimmerman was fast enough to run after and catch Trayvon.
Yeah, but she's like Grumpy Cat (just not as good looking)...that's her happy face.
Especially if the defense can get the texts on Trayvon’s phone verified.
No offense taken at all FRiend! I just thot 1lb8zs’s comment was funny. Should have included him/her in my post to you.
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I can see how such a situation could cause the malfunction we saw here. Zimmerman's gun (Kel-Tec?), reportedly, did not chamber the second round. If he crammed it to get the extra round, the auto-feed may not have worked properly, thus giving him only one shot. Let that be a lesson to everybody: You don't need the one extra round that badly!
Smart man. My 9 mm Springfield is close by. Getting the Bennelli 12 gauge out tonight.
All will do the job, including the lowly .380. I've seen the results from all. Some survived, some didn't.
Message to the good guys: Stay alive, everybody.
Message to the bad guys: You may want to rethink any plans for mayhem.
Liberals believe it because they don't worry about facts and reality.
After following Twitter for a little while today, I was amazed how many folks say "GZ is a child killer...period. He wanted to kill a black kid and that is exactly what he did."
Liberals don't let the truth get in the way of their opinions.
DAMN, SHE MUST BE A CLONE! lol
“Especially if the defense can get the texts on Trayvons phone verified.”
No. I think that train has left the station, with the judge driving it. But the Defense already has enough to get an acquittal....
in a perfect and/or just and fair world.
We’re about to find out just how far down the rabbit hole we’ve moved (or been dragged) away from that world.
I suspect it didn’t chamber because Trayvon was holding the slide.
Hey, Cyn! Look at all the great stuff you left me. Thanks! And it’s so weird because i JUST saw this subject on TV and was getting irritated at the media spin.
You said,
<< // Zimmerman said he was driving to buy groceries when he spotted the unarmed teen walking near a house **that he knew Martin did not live in** and called police [non-emergency number] to report a suspicious person. >>
Coincidentally, Z’s friend was just on CNN. (I think it was that middle-age white male with greying hair & in-your-face attitude who owned that house you’re talking about. I didn’t look up, i was just listening). Jane Velez Mitchell (sp?) was talking about what you just wrote, and she repeated the lie! Well, Z’s friend promptly corrected her, explaining that Z had seen TM looking in this friend’s windows and had made Z suspicious.
Well, Jane balked, not believing him. So he kept saying, “It’s on the video! At the beginning of it. Look at the video!” Sure enough, I remember seeing it on Z’s video at the very beginning.
Lots of lies the defense is going to have to correct.
Thx...I was worried that I might have hurt some delicate ears with my profanity...I think I have some anger management issues re: Bernie and his pals.;-)
Zimmerman donations coming in at $30,000 a month ....just reported by the moronic beotch, Nancy Grace on HLN. And yes, I’ve already turned the channel to Big Bang Theory.
I think calling him “an innocent teen ager” opens the door.
The defense should be allowed to rebut that.
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