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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: txmissy

“OMG - Bernie’s starting to sound psycho.”

Starting?


2,141 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:12 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Fawn

lol


2,142 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Sacajaweau

what did Bernie just say..

sounded like Stucco Man


2,143 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:25 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Racehorse

“What did dispatcher tell Z?”

Haven’t been paying attention, have you? That is well documented, and if you don’t know by now you need to stop blathering and start catching up on published facts.

“If cops were on the way . . . all Z needed to do was keep T in view. Right?”

Yup. And that’s exactly what he was trying to do. T managed to evade Z’s view, went home (or nearly so), then came all the way back to...what? If somebody is eyeing you suspiciously while you’re engaged in suspicious behavior, and you go home, then come back to the guy (who has lost you by now) *in the rain*, what’s your reasoning?


2,144 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:25 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: BlueDragon

um, I doubt George got to aim the gun, it went off quickly in the struggle. Probably thought he just wounded him and he was fine.


2,145 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:29 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Donnafrflorida
when n where is evidence that T went home first. i mentioned this fact to insane apparently racist coworker and she went nuts

This was Jeantel's testimony - that T-dawg had made it home prior to encountering GZ away from the home.

Your coworker is an anti-black racist for daring to question the testimony of Jeantel.

2,146 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:48 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Yeah, in the screencap Guy looks like he’s thinking “Stay away from my doll, Baldie.”


2,147 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:50 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: beandog

Wow.

How does a person respond to your foolishness?

Opposition must be drunk, drugged or otherwise impaired?

LOL.

Get a life.


2,148 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:52 PM PDT by Racehorse
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Ooops. Bernie said “a 17 year old man”....lol.

Slip of the tongue Bernie. And he’s raising his voice again.


2,149 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:58 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Toespi

ROWGBTHCFTDLMAO


2,150 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:01 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Uncle Chip; RummyChick
Is there any way Judge Nelson can reverse her denial of her verdict of acquittal?

Basically, after this PATHETIC closing argument of AGAIN not proving every element of the state's case, can Judge Nelson say: "After seeing the state's closing arguments, I am going to grant the Defense's motion of acquittal. Mr. Zimmerman, you are free to go"?

2,151 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:09 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: tioga

Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV
While BDLR is ‘straddling’ the dummy, he is asking the jury - how does #TravyonMartin get the gun? Not possible. #ZimmermanOn9


2,152 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Bronzewound

Ha!!

Good one.


2,153 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:20 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Conservative145

She makes me think of Cruella DeVille.


2,154 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:23 PM PDT by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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To: Conservative145
"I’m confused on that. If I got this straight, she told West that “not guilty” wouldn’t be on the page with the charges, then she tells him all will be on one page. Then did I hear her say “I understand, but I’m not going to do that?” Wishing I had a replay of that."

I'm finding a lot of the trial on YouTube.

Good luck; I'm going to check it out this evening after they have had time to post.

2,155 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:26 PM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan.)
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To: Soul of the South

simple mandate police can not talk to a person of interest without a defense lawyer present PERIOD.

no laywer, no talk. CAN NOT BE WAIVED.


2,156 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: toldyou
“We don’t need you to follow him.”

THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE SAID. PLEASE STOP PERPETRATING THIS LIE!

She said "We don't need you to do that."

Now, if you will please tell us what "that" refers to. You can't, not without listening to the whole drama from the taped record (as discovered a long time ago from the tapes).

The dispatcher had no authority to order him to do anything. She was suggesting that he did not have to continue to stand out in the cold rain.

Right after this, the call was ended. From that point, there was no information available from Zimmerman's phone as to what he did before the fight. He didn’t.

Again, your assumption here is based on (at first) George's father's version in the early days, then by George's version. However, since the only testimony to this can come from George, and he has not been put on the stand, YOU DO NOT KNOW AND SHOULD NOT REPEAT THIS AS PROVABLE FACT.

I am sorry to offend you by using upper case, but this line of reasoning needs to stop!

(Still respecting you though scolding)

2,157 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:32 PM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: toldyou

Hard to tell which one will get the award for craziest ass cracker for this trial.......he and judgeCrazy are neck and neck as we approach the finish line.


2,158 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:39 PM PDT by tioga
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To: txrangerette

I think the troll started our drinking game a few hours early.


2,159 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:40 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Sacajaweau

Thanks for the correction. Still the question is in play...


2,160 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:55 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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