Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.
From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.
By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.
As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.
The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.
If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.
She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.
In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.
THAT is the MOST bizarre thing to me.
Is he TRYING to incite race riots???
Bill S is really hammering him
I bet someone talks to Bernie during the break about this disaster
Talking Head said Guy goes last.
Bad news.
False.
If you had followed the testimony at all, you would know that the prosecution's own witness testified that Zimmerman had lost contact with TM, and TM had made it all the way back to the condo where he was staying. Yet the fight occurred 80 yards back toward where Zimmerman's truck was parked. So if TM was safely home, how did he wind up back down at the other end of the row of condos?
I am not “projecting violence”.
I am recounting Trayvon Martins physical assault on George Zimmerman.
Had Martin merely talked to Zimmerman rather than attacking him nothing would have happened other than Trayvon and his Dad being evicted from the condos for mot being on the lease when the police arrived.
Trayvon made it home, but then went back afte Zimmerman. We know this from the prosecution’s witness Racheal Jeantel. Had he stayed home and watched TV whilst eating skittles he would still be on. He chose to seek the short fat guy out and got his thug on.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
It is simple really.....this kid was ticked off that some cracker was watching him, so he went back to beat the hell out of him. Not surprising for a 17yr old who was proud of his arse kicking abilities (like many young men his age).
It is just sad that he did not go on home, he prob never considered that this guy from the suburbs would have a weapon.
Perhaps he is being deliberately provocative. . .you know. . .acting the classic troll?
“Had Zimmerman stayed put and waited for the cops, he would not have had suffered anything. Wrong or not . . . the kid he killed would still be alive.”
...and still breaking into houses, fighting, stealing, and eventually (statistically) working his way up to killing someone with the gun he already had and was playing with (see judge-suppressed photos).
If Martin had gone home and stayed home, rather than coming back and beating the crap out of a neighborhood watch volunteer (who was just keeping an eye on something suspicious), he’d be alive.
can I get a status update? they’re on break now. did BDLR blow it?
Andrew Branca, LOSD @LawSelfDefense
“#zimmermantrial Nelson: “Court in recess for 15 minutes.” And that’s the last time anybody ever saw BDLR alive.”
Branca reminds me of Dick Morris. Overly optimistic, and always trying to sell his books.
Yeah. That Huge Manatee thing..
YES, Bernie is blowing it
But Guy will fix it after MOM
The self-defense law in florida (not stand your ground BUT self defense) is very specific. If at some point you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or done seriously bodily harm in an altercation, you have the legal right to defend yourself by the necessary means to keep yourself from being killed or seriously injured.
What happened BEFORE that moment is NOT the basis for a guilty verdict. The cops said this, you did that, your vehicle was here, you got out and walked there, etc. has nothing to do with a just verdict under the florida law of self defense.
To argue - if that’s what you’re doing here and I can’t tell for sure if you’re just venting from your past experience or if you are truly trying to argue points of law - that because of what Z did or didn’t do prior to the moment the self-defense law kicked in, that the self-defense law should be ignored in favor of a guilty verdict is not smart, and is wrong.
You can keep going there, can’t stop you, but the law is the law and no matter how many times you go there, it will remain the law under which they are duty bound to render this verdict.
Tough.
The Jury is not charged with figuring out what YOU would do.
The Jury is charged with finding beyond a reasonable doubt that George Zimmerman committed a crime.
Zimmerman is not guilty.
You are an idiot.
You can not hit me or hurt me for simply following you.
I can kill you if I need to do so, to stop you from beating
me. That is the law, moron!
That note should be sent to State prosecutor's office. They should all be made to read it. Prosecution team should be forced to wear shock collars for a year which any auto -key fob can activate shock impulse. If they cannot recite verbatim, shock level increased a notch. Try again.
Profiling young black males wearing hoodies and wandering around neighborhoods high on pot and purple drank is a good thing.
Ok, and while you ‘wait’ for the police and get sucker punched, you do what?
I mean.... come on. When you are forced to sit somewhere and listen to someone drone on and on, and you have a pen and paper, what do you do ?
Ok I’m going to confess something in my mind. Those women jurors are not going to be able to shake the sympathy they feel for GZ. Here it is:
Chubby soft guy
Not aggressive
Many failures as to his aspirations but still and always trying
Bad credit
Suits bought by friend for trial
Good neighbor
Soft spoken always helping people
P.S. And, coincidentally, why they advise you to call your lawyer and not answers questions from the police.
You may not be guilty of anything, but what you say may be used to convict you of something anyway.
Just like in this case. *ssholes, F*n Punks.
BDLR is trying to get the Jury to believe it’s about what George said, and not about what Trayvon did.
I think Guy sucks...I know I’m biased but his accusatory pitch makes me sick. what evidence is there that the jury likes him??
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