[DManA]

would still want to implement the proposed solutions

Even using their phony models they admit the most draconian laws would reduce the rise of CO2 by a tiny, insignificant amount. All you have to do is point that out and their political argument falls apart.

[MrB]

Also, you have to understand the real down and nitty gritty reason that sheeperal support anything.

They want to feel self-righteous for believing and supporting it.

And there’s no amount of evidence or argument that shakes that motivation.