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Day 21 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 9, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/09/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 9th, is DAY #21 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday was the first full day of defense witnesses. Perhaps the most significant of the first set were the two police officers who stated Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father, said on 2/28/12 the cries for help on the 911 calls were NOT Trayvon. Later in the day Tracy Martin took the stand and essentially said the two detectives were lying. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

What additionally strikes as important to us is the first signs of desperation from the original nucleus of the Scheme Team construct, Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks – attorneys for the Martin family. Parks appeared on Piers Morgan show last night and the video should be watched by anyone who knows how the scheme was constructed.

We accept that Mark O’Mara is conflicted in this case, and he is trying to walk a fine line between presenting a defense to a case built on political pressure and outright fraud; Yet simultaneously avoiding exposition of both the politics and the fraud itself.

The intentionally avoided open doors exposing the fraud creates anxiety for those of us who know what is inside the room he is avoiding. Our prayers are that his passing those wide open doors is based on prudence [within an unknown strategy]. However, our fear is the hasty and politically correct avoidance might cause him to pass by the room holding the key to George Zimmerman’s ultimate ‘long-term’ freedom.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrap up with a community/LEO preparation meeting today.

(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: george; kangaroocourt; showtrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Nervous Tick
Kathi Belich, WFTV‏@KBelichWFTV17m Bonaparte did not seem happy about testifying. He told me back then the city was worried about being sued for false arrest. #Zimmermanon9
1,441 posted on 07/09/2013 12:28:39 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Fawn
V. P. ‏@VP_JFGZ 21m Mr. Bonaparte also told Holder's civil right's rep from DOJ he wanted them to look into the SPD's practices i.e., racial rel. #zimmerman
1,442 posted on 07/09/2013 12:29:14 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: soycd

The black city manager of Sanford testified that they excluded police and did not tape the playing of the 911 call for the family. Former police chief (fired for not arresting Z) testified that this city manager refused to allow police into this meeting to witness the playing of the tape.

The manager was angry, clearly angry. He scowled and looked furious.


1,443 posted on 07/09/2013 12:29:19 PM PDT by tioga
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To: onyx

Is this about the 90’s when Snapple was supporting the gay agenda and conservatives boycotted?

Sorry to butt in


1,444 posted on 07/09/2013 12:29:34 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: longtermmemmory

False arrest at a minimum........malicious prosecution seems more fitting.


1,445 posted on 07/09/2013 12:29:42 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: hummingbird
I hope that thing is registered..LOL

The ME when was given the flashlight by Bernie, started laughing and said it was plastic and not a weapon.

1,446 posted on 07/09/2013 12:29:50 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: denydenydeny

Ugh. Ashleigh just called Bernie “a great prosecutor”.


1,447 posted on 07/09/2013 12:30:27 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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Listening to these two WTF TV morons is like being punched in the nose and having your head slammed on the sidewalk.

Too bad I don’t have a Keltec-9.


1,448 posted on 07/09/2013 12:30:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Fawn

>> Is it against the law to not have LE in this kind of setting?

Unknown. My guess is, it’s not illegal. It could really taint legal testimony, however.


1,449 posted on 07/09/2013 12:30:48 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: DrewsMum; machogirl

No, we were remembering when Rush used to advertise snapple.


1,450 posted on 07/09/2013 12:31:48 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

>> ” dxmn popcorn” Do you wash that down with Purple Drank?

Ew... not where I hang out. I prefer a nice porter or oatmeal stout!


1,451 posted on 07/09/2013 12:31:48 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: RummyChick

And the town of Sanford actually pays this idiot Bonaparte to “manage” Sanford (while actually financially destroying it)?


1,452 posted on 07/09/2013 12:31:59 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Nervous Tick

had to compromise for next witness


1,453 posted on 07/09/2013 12:32:03 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Pollster1
I don’t understand what the prosecution is claiming happened.

I thought when Bernie introduced the trees, maybe their case would come into focus. It did not, at least for me.

1,454 posted on 07/09/2013 12:32:29 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: UCANSEE2

No worries! I just read it and thot: As IF (we need more lightening up around here today). LOL!


1,455 posted on 07/09/2013 12:32:33 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Hulka

lol, yes, it was Francis.


1,456 posted on 07/09/2013 12:32:42 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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http://www.tampabay-criminaldefense.com/topics/homicide.html

Florida law defines manslaughter as:

The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification... and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree.

Manslaughter is basically murder without intent, and can be charged in cases where mere negligence is involved, including vehicular manslaughter, which occurs when a drunk driver causes an accident that results in death. Manslaughter includes penalties that can include decades of prison time, but there is no possibility of the death penalty under such a charge.

Regardless of what your specific charge may be, an arrest or indictment for homicide is the most serious criminal charge a defendant can face. As such, your very life may depend on your ability to work with an experienced, accomplished Tampa Bay criminal defense attorney. Attorney Michael D. Fluke has represented more than a dozen individuals on Homicide cases. If you are charged or think you may be charged or investigated in a homicide case Contact a Tampa Bay criminal defense attorney at Michael D. Fluke, P.A. immediately.


I don’t know how you get manslaughter from this case. GZ definitely intended to inflict death or serious bodily harm. If he was justified in shooting, because he had a reasonable fear of immediate danger, then he’s not guilty because it’s self defense. If he was not justified in shooting, because he any fear of immediate danger was not reasonable, then he’s guilty of second degree murder. Manslaughter makes no sense at all.


1,457 posted on 07/09/2013 12:32:58 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: RummyChick

Who is it RC?


1,458 posted on 07/09/2013 12:33:04 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Fawn

no but its highly irresponsible...


1,459 posted on 07/09/2013 12:33:11 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Toespi

dont know yet


1,460 posted on 07/09/2013 12:33:25 PM PDT by RummyChick
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