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To: chessplayer

“Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as the FISA court”

I did not know this existed. How many of you reading this knew?


6 posted on 07/06/2013 9:15:31 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

I’ve known it for something like 5-10 years already. A long time. It started out they could wiretap mafiosi or do “sneak and peek” searches on such people. Now, it would appear, they have decided that their jurisdiction is a wee bit larger.


7 posted on 07/06/2013 9:18:29 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: dynachrome
I did not know this existed. How many of you reading this knew?

Wow! Current events not your strong suit??

10 posted on 07/06/2013 9:26:05 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: dynachrome

Don’t feel bad. Seems the press doesn’t care.

The FISA judges . well, I can’t say it. They’re part and parcel of the destruction of our way of life. That is to say, their existence and decisions are antithetical to natural law. For those of you in Rio Linda, that means freedom.


12 posted on 07/06/2013 9:32:06 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: dynachrome
I have known of that body for some time. I have appeared before one of the judges of that Court, although not in his capacity as a member of that Court, but sitting as a Judge of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

Without going into the gory details of that case, which I cannot due to Rules of Conduct, I will tell you that I would not have my fate resting in that judge's hands.

I perceive no difference between FISA and any other Secret, Unilateral "Court," whether denominated as FISA, Star Chamber, Inquisition, or Tribunal Révolutionnaire.

And I don't buy that one must acquiesce in the erosion of one's God-given rights to maintain "security." In my long lifetime, we have never had "security" - but in my youth we had Freedom. Freedom is all that matters - without it, there is no life, at least for me!



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16 posted on 07/06/2013 9:40:23 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: dynachrome

Read. Joseph. Farrell.

CA....


20 posted on 07/06/2013 9:44:26 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: dynachrome
“Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as the FISA court”

OK... the acronym doesn't fit the source description. Is there a reason ?

Is Moscow, do they have the same 'court' and do they call it the FISB ?

21 posted on 07/06/2013 9:45:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: dynachrome

FISA started in the 70’s I believe..


25 posted on 07/06/2013 9:53:35 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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To: dynachrome

I thought I knew about most of this stuff (well, that’s public), but I had never heard of that court until recently (like the last month or so).


36 posted on 07/06/2013 10:26:12 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: dynachrome

I did.

Doesn’t make me superior but, as one whose living is affected by the various laws that CALEA, FISA, HIPPAA and the Patriot Acts I am constantly reminded.

Even SOX and Frank-Dodd are taken into consideration with my clients.


43 posted on 07/07/2013 12:28:28 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: dynachrome
“Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as the FISA court” I did not know this existed. How many of you reading this knew?

Knew what? That there are now a dozen .guv agencies that can now abuse your Constitutional Rights under the guise of "national security"?

I find it odd that both a "Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court" (FISA) and the "Council on Foreign Relations" (CFR) both contain the word "foreign," as both conspire against national security while superseding oversight of We The People.

64 posted on 07/07/2013 4:57:25 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: dynachrome
I've always known it to be a “shadow government”.

When you mention this to folks, they look at you like your nuts.

For years I'd hear of this sort of stuff. Surveillance this, FEMA that. All kinds of left field stories.

It appears that it's really not so nut Jobi's sorta stuff any longer.

Surveillance drones being deployed throughout America (we have one right here in Montgomery co. Texas. Cameras being installed everywhere. Militarization of local law enforcement, secret courts, law abiding citizens being spied on, credit card / phone records seized w/o a warrant.

DHS, Patriot Act, NDAA, TSA shaking folks down. Law enforcement pulling folks out of their homes and frisking them at gun point during the whole Boston fiasco.

King street patriots, a tea party group in the Houston area had their private business scrutinized by the IRS, FBI, EPA and OSHA.

I dunno...seems like more of a police state to me. Maybe not full blown yet, but it appears to be heading this way.

76 posted on 07/07/2013 6:38:37 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: dynachrome

I became aware of the FISA Court when under the former president Bush, the liberals were screaming about him “shredding the Constitution” for authorizing warrant less wiretaps of targeted overseas communications of suspected Al Queda members. So, in 2008 under our current ruler, they decided they didn’t want to come under similar scrutiny from the likes of the ACLU, MSNBC, and to a lesser extent their base. So, they just expanded the FISA Court’s power to justify any and everything the regime deems necessary to “keep us safe” (from tax payers and tea party member no doubt) and it is all on the up and up because it is overseen by a judge.


101 posted on 07/07/2013 11:12:27 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: dynachrome

Just since all the revelations on NSA this summer. That’s why I don’t condemn Snowden either. Ive studied and read too much about life under both Nazis and communists. NKVD, KGB, SS. Lubyanka....terrifying.


103 posted on 07/07/2013 12:16:13 PM PDT by boxlunch (Deuteronomy 28,29,30)
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To: dynachrome

” I did not know this existed. How many of you reading this knew?”

Shhhhh....that’s a secret.


121 posted on 07/08/2013 5:13:38 AM PDT by lowbridge
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