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777 Crash at SFO (San Francisco)
Twitter ^ | July 6, 2013

Posted on 07/06/2013 12:02:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster

Currently just Tweets and locals talking about this, nothing on news sites yet. Lots of stuff in the Twitter feed, including links to uploaded videos of the smoking mess.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 777; airlinecrash; asiana214; boeing; flight214; planecrash; sanfrancisco; sfo; southkorea
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To: tcrlaf
CNN just stated that Flightaware shows a steeper glideslope for this aircraft today, than for the same flight yesterday.

"Glideslope" has a very specific meaning in aviation. It always means "vertical path associated with a Instrument Landing System (ILS)." What CNN should have said was a "steeper glidepath' - that means they simply descending in a steeper angle. No two visual approaches are the same. Because the ILS was out of service (and the associated LDA approach), they were likely using RNAV for vertical guidance - however that close in, they were more likely using VASI and visually adjusting for the landing.

It seems quite likely that this is simply a screwed up landing. They landed short. It has happened on that runway more than once. JAL put a DC-8 in the bay there.
381 posted on 07/06/2013 2:09:07 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Georgia Girl 2
This looks like total pilot error. The guy really pooched it up unless something else was happening on landing.

Could be, but a 777 came down short in London a few years ago. The engines stopped responding due to ice crystals in the fuel system.

382 posted on 07/06/2013 2:09:30 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Borax Queen

Sooo...as I was traveling to the airport, listening to someone who thought discussing airplane crashes was appropriate since I’m a pilot, while I’m thinking of my exit row seating and smacking myself in the head for not wearing cross trainers, but thankful for remembering to wear cotton...well, thank you, universe- my also pilot husband just had me print out his ticket for his trip on a 777. I couldn’t understand why my daughter has to take anti-anxiety medication before flying. I’m a little dense. Regardless, they’ll determine it’s pilot error. I do have new respect for my husband as he told me about refusing a last minute run way change into Atlanta.


383 posted on 07/06/2013 2:10:43 PM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: diogenes ghost

CNN showing UA885 now. They have towed it to a pad, and it seems to be surrounded by airport fire equipment. Did it get hit by something?


384 posted on 07/06/2013 2:10:49 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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San Francisco International Airport ( SFO ) Public Information Officer just said there’s still no arrivals or departures from the airport. Couldn’t give out much else. Another briefing is scheduled in one hour at 3:00 PM PT.


385 posted on 07/06/2013 2:12:17 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: tcrlaf

KTVU talking about the NOTAMS now ... out for about a month - normal visual glideslope equip is inoperable due to construction. Pilots expected to eyeball it in. PAPPI - bank of lights - was out.


386 posted on 07/06/2013 2:12:52 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: XHogPilot

you called it


387 posted on 07/06/2013 2:13:37 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: NonValueAdded

“KTVU talking about the NOTAMS now ... out for about a month - normal visual glideslope equip is inoperable due to construction. Pilots expected to eyeball it in. PAPPI - bank of lights - was out.”

And the accident cascade begins...


388 posted on 07/06/2013 2:13:49 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: XHogPilot

Pilots could have “built” their own glide slope, using the capabilities of the B777 FMC. ILS OTS meant that all pilots were basically flying “non-precision approaches” or, the “dreaded visual approach”. Could be a big factor, their reliance on technology and their inability to go back to basics.


389 posted on 07/06/2013 2:14:20 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: steve86

That kind of engine disintegration would be catastrophic, but I have no experience in that area. Most likely that’s part of the fuselage which hit the jetty/runway and broke into debris. There’s pics/film of a large piece just in front of the jetty rocks... I just don’t see another engine anywhere, and I KNOW they have 2. Heh.


390 posted on 07/06/2013 2:15:11 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Is the PAPPI MOTAM’d as OOS?


391 posted on 07/06/2013 2:16:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: carriage_hill

Press conference tape playing now


392 posted on 07/06/2013 2:17:46 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: carriage_hill

I still haven’t seen any sign of that missing engine.

Wonder if it’s in the drink?


393 posted on 07/06/2013 2:17:49 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: FreedomPoster

Sorry I’m late, I’ve been out playing. Now I’m getting e-mails from far away lands about it, and everybody individually must notify everybody on Fakebook about it, it’s just disappointing that everyone survived, isn’t it! The crowd wants blood and gore (pun intended, as the noise around it is thanks to Al’s invention.) Has there been a dozen threads on FR yet? There will be, there will be, just wait. Competing with the Zimmerman threads.


394 posted on 07/06/2013 2:19:18 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: tcrlaf

dunno but the guy on KTVU said it was out


395 posted on 07/06/2013 2:19:42 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: onedoug

Aw my baby.


396 posted on 07/06/2013 2:19:59 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Revolting cat!

Eye witness just said landing gear hit Burm!
Too low too soon!


397 posted on 07/06/2013 2:21:03 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: 2111USMC

Christ....

Girl on CNN says no one from SFO or Asiana has contacted the families.

THEY DON’T HAVE THAT INFO. Some people....


398 posted on 07/06/2013 2:21:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL! Didn’t know about this. I just came online. I’m so thankful everyone made it!


399 posted on 07/06/2013 2:22:16 PM PDT by floralamiss ("For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.")
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To: Hulka

“They are not “shear pin” in the way most people understand the term”

Personally I have no clue. I’ll have to lean on the guy who used to build the plane, deliver the plane, work on Air Force One, and fly them.


400 posted on 07/06/2013 2:23:14 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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