Posted on 07/06/2013 12:02:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
Currently just Tweets and locals talking about this, nothing on news sites yet. Lots of stuff in the Twitter feed, including links to uploaded videos of the smoking mess.
Another reference states that all Boeing transports subsequent to the 707 do have shearable bolts or pins on the engine mounts.
That pretty much sums up the area of point of impact...
It’s going to be pilot error or mechanical problem.
KTVU confirms 2 killed, 61 injured
I had dinner with Sully. He is a heck of a nice guy. Yeah, I know, name-dropping. ;-)
We discussed the sequence of events. Never heard him say that. Now, he did say he kept the nose up as high as he could in an effort to reduce speed so when the engines did hit the water, chances were reduced that the engines digging in would cause the jet to tumble and break apart.
I used to own an Aztec 1965C. Sold it when the price of 100LL was over $6.00 after Katrina. (140 gal usable)
I do have almost 21,000 hours in everything from a J-3 Cub to the B-747-400. Air Force T-37, T-33, B-52G AN Guard F-84.
Airlines 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, DC 8, DC 10.
I think that we are stuck on the word “flare” Most of the larger jets fly final approach in a nose up attitude, say 3 or 4 degrees nose up. In landing the pilot increases his pitch attitude by another 3 or 4 degrees to check the descent rate. The longer bodied airplanes (757) will strike the runway if the attitude is greater than 7.5 degrees.
Could it be under the port wing with a collapsed pylon? If not, extraordinarily weird.
SF tv station KTVU reported 2 dead at 11:41am local, about 20 minutes after the incident. That’s being on top of the story!
http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/boeing-777-crashes-while-landing-sfo/nYfcx/
I noticed that just after the film aired, a couple hours ago; no one on TV has said anything yet about the missing port engine.
Self-sealing? For a bird-strike maybe, but not if they are ripped apart.
;-)
Machogirl, hey! Where did you hear that (cortisol) about the jackboots? waaa. I don’t drink either... or fly... but... when I used to fly more, always had an exit strategy. I’ve read enough accounts from plane crash survivors to know what they did to get out. And, it did not include trying to grab their luggage...!
The Instrument Landing System (ILS) for both Runways 28L and 28R is NOTAMed inoperative. It is likely the Asian attempted to use the (inop) ILS and hit well short of the intended touchdown point. A very similar cause to the crash of Korean Air B-747 in Guam several years ago.
Wonder if they might be relieved not to fly right away?
!SFO 06/005 SFO NAV ILS RWY 28L GP OTS WEF 1306011400-1308222359
!SFO 06/004 SFO NAV ILS RWY 28R GP OTS WEF 1306011400-1308222359
I haven’t followed 100LL prices and was shocked to see it at $6.36 the other day.
That’s even worse than the $4.45 unleaded ethanol-free premium costs here.
From Airliners:
The flight on hold for takeoff when this crashed was UA 885 to Kansai
I read it in the past year. I’ll try to find it.
Well, tailsrike is a yes. But as a result of mechanical failure or pilot error? That’s the question.
note: pilot error cause a bird hit an engine at 200 ft and he didn’t react per protocol/training is different than the dork set the gauge wrong. The black box will tell us.
Check out pic at 342....Got to be half buried too if it's there.
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