Posted on 07/06/2013 12:02:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
Currently just Tweets and locals talking about this, nothing on news sites yet. Lots of stuff in the Twitter feed, including links to uploaded videos of the smoking mess.
Now reporting 2 fatalities.
I remember failing a check-ride in a PA28-R200 because I did not place the mains on the third stripe. I floated to the fourth stripe in order to spare the plane. He busted me for it.
“Now reporting 2 fatalities.”
The bomb crew?
did they save any kimch?
Oh, come on. A little bondo, a fresh coat of paint and that baby will be as good as new. Well, with a new fuselage. And wings. And stuff.
On a serious side, if that thing pranged and they got 293 people off it alive, I have a very serious new respect for the designers. Wow.
Looking at the pics, just past the # 28 on the runway looks like the nose gear. In the overrun and on the start of the runway, plenty of rocks from the jetty. Just in the water a large piece of the tail. Still haven’t seen the left engine anywhere.
I’d assume it’s still somewhat above, lol.
When the video pulls way out you can see there was another plane on the taxiway at the end of the runway. Apparently waiting for clearance to take off.
How’d you like that front row seat watching this plane crash.
High to a low, look out below.
Huh? That picture was taken after the plane had already skidded down the runway.
Yeah
You have to press “B”
When did the two people die? Of what? Before or after the crash landing?
Not being familiar with the process of landing such an airliner, how many seconds does it take to drop to the ground from 200 feet? If SFO is at 13 ft above sea level, what was the timing of all of this in those last few seconds?
Looking at the other plane that was waiting to take off, it’s a miracle that the crashed plane didn’t slide into the jet that was waiting.
The brown smear is easy to explain.
Sometimes there is no choice.
I have to fly next Monday for work.
I hate it.
sad
CNN is all over the poor guy.
KC Estenson @kccnn 40m
@Eunner can you get on the phone with CNN re plane crash?
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David Eun David Eun @Eunner 34m
@kccnn I don’t want to divert attention away from crash. Posted updates to let everyone know that majority of passengers seem ok.
Not the fuselage breaking apart and all that fuel and sparks causing the fire?
"wings are pinned so that if you have a hard landing the engine breaks away and slides under the wing and then is left behind"
Not to argue too much, but engines are not designed to shear off on a hard/crash landing.
Engines go from zero to 100% thrust pretty darned quick and you need them to hold on, hour after hour, years after year after year, engine thrust up and down countless times. What would be the NDI process used to determine if the designed-to-shear-off (fail) engine was due for replacement? Imagine the liability issues for designing a critical flight component to “fail.”
Basically, engines are not designed to shear off. Most mishaps the engines do shear off and travel ahead of the impact site. Why? Because they are heavy and producing thrust when the aircraft impacts the ground (assuming a semi-level flight path). In those cases the engines pull ahead of the rapidly disintegrating, very light-weight airframe due to inertia and residue thrust.
The fact that one engine remained on the fuselage indicates possibly low power—consistent with low/idle power at landing. The other engine separating could indicate the engine impacted the ground and submarined into the dirt, breaking it off.
Regardless, it is amazing so many survived. . .simply amazing.
No, you can see the nose of the jet still pointing up in the air. It still has a tail section in that pic.
“Dial in his barometric pressure”...That might cause a problem on an instrument approach where the altimeter is controlling the Minimum descent altitude. This was a visual approach. A wide body jet pilot is aiming 1500’ down the runway in order to be sure that the gear have adequate clearance over the runway threshold. Most likely pilot error with tower contributing to cause if the tower instructed pilot to land on the parallel runway.
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