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Day 19 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 5, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/05/2013 4:54:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 5th, is DAY #19 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

The State is expected to wrap up their case today – A great recap of the trial so far is available HERE: The key witness today expected to be Sybrina Fulton, mom.

Great Expectations? Remember, as y’all have noted during the 15+ months of research, there is so much corruption in the assembly of this case we could expect the State to avoid the traditional witnesses brought by normal prosecutions. We have not been disappointed in our predictions. The state has already won a pre-trial motion to bar the defense mentioning the absence of any witness from the State’s case.

So it comes as no surprise, not a single State investigator has been called, not a single FBI officer, only one local investigative detective, Chris Serino (who supported the defense), and now the profound possibility they won’t even present the Seminole County Medical Examiner. So has the State actually even proven that Trayvon is indeed, deceased? Without the M.E. the ballistics are essentially moot – where did the aforementioned bullet come from? They have not established it came from Trayvon’s body. Think about it.

Because of pre-trial ‘motions in limine’ to exclude the defense bringing it up, O’Mara cannot mention it. Would/Will the jurors notice a missing M.E. = Trayvon blood tox. etc?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bao; fulton; jahvarisfulton; notes; shiping; shipingbao; showtrial; sybrina; sybrinafulton; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: AppyPappy

You bet, on defense he’ll play the, “I don’t understand routine”....And they’ll probably have to bring in red Chinese interpreters and draw crayon pictures for him.


661 posted on 07/05/2013 8:16:19 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AppyPappy

LOL — Sudden Inability To Understand English might be quite contagious in that courtroom today


662 posted on 07/05/2013 8:16:22 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: AppyPappy

Y’all are hilarious this morning...and thank you for it...I needed these laughs. Toooo funny pappy


663 posted on 07/05/2013 8:16:48 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: DCBryan1
Defense will make a motion to dismiss charges since state has not made its case.

I hope not! George Zimmerman needs to be acquitted. A mistrial means a 2nd trial and a free try for the state.

The defense would not make a motion to dismiss, but a motion for a directed verdict, that would be a not guilty verdict and would stop double jeopardy. However, would not prevent a civil which, BTW, I think is double jeopardy.

664 posted on 07/05/2013 8:17:01 AM PDT by calex59
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To: House Atreides
He’s telegraphing that he’s worried about the Defense asking him what HE DID versus what autopsy TECHNICIANS did.

probably the reason for the second autopsy ... to cover his lazy ass on that which he didn't do himself the first go round

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665 posted on 07/05/2013 8:17:01 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: onyx

Hooray...I need to get in a short exercise and get a load of laundry started...I’m off work today...looking forward to cross of ME


666 posted on 07/05/2013 8:17:47 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: txrangerette

Agreed. It’s the conclusions drawn that invite the most bias.

Science can teach you someone is nervous. it can not teach you if it’s because they are lying, intimidated, mentally ill, stressed, etc.

External factors help to draw those conclusions as well as their baseline behavior.

I am TRYING to not be biased, it helps no one..... But I CAN say that GZ had the worst (pre-court) body language ever! Someone has advised him to not move a muscle b/c of that.

Some people have bad body language. I know he does and i also think he’s 100 percent innocent and not deceptive at all.


667 posted on 07/05/2013 8:17:47 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Kansas58

But you haven’t taken Red Cross CPR in the last year. They no longer teach breaths.


668 posted on 07/05/2013 8:17:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: jiggyboy

LOL, Sybrina used the ploy a couple of times already today.


669 posted on 07/05/2013 8:18:01 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Premeditation can occur in an instant. If this medical examiner is correct, the kid was intentionally homicided.


670 posted on 07/05/2013 8:18:28 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
He was intentionally homicided.

No. He was intentionally shot. Whether GZ intended to kill him is not known with certainty. What is known is that GZ wanted to do something that would end the beating. In retrospect, you can be sure that GZ would rather have had TM survive.

671 posted on 07/05/2013 8:19:23 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: jiggyboy

Watch the biased government judge...When defense comes back, she’ll side with the govenrment prosecution on every objection...


672 posted on 07/05/2013 8:20:02 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tau Food

Since it sounds as if you are english impaired, let me explain. Homicide is one person taking the life of another, even if it is intentional as it is in this case of self defense. That does not make it murder.


673 posted on 07/05/2013 8:20:44 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: dragnet2
virtually all judges side with the govt

they are the govt ... especially a florida judge

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674 posted on 07/05/2013 8:21:25 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: dragnet2

Back in the day, the testimony from the autopsy surgeon was accurate, medically correct, and limited to the facts. How things have changed.


675 posted on 07/05/2013 8:21:30 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg
this guy thinks he's Jack Klugman playing Quincy

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676 posted on 07/05/2013 8:22:42 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: viaveritasvita

Fabulous you’re off work today!

We must see the cross examination of this ME!

He’s been nothing but a lackey for the prosecution -— hitting every speculative point as “fact,” what with his garbled interchange of definitions.


677 posted on 07/05/2013 8:22:56 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Fresh Wind
He was intentionally shot.

I agree. I'm convinced of that now.

678 posted on 07/05/2013 8:23:00 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Fresh Wind

He was killed intentionally. Legally, it’s not the same as “intent to kill”. It’s a quick way to say “He was killed because he was intentionally shot”. IOW not an accident.


679 posted on 07/05/2013 8:23:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Back in the day, the testimony from the autopsy surgeon was accurate, medically correct, and limited to the facts. How things have changed.
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It’s a rare government employee now who is anything other than a statist. The state is their de facto god.


680 posted on 07/05/2013 8:24:11 AM PDT by House Atreides
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