Posted on 07/03/2013 11:00:28 PM PDT by Red Steel
Edited on 07/04/2013 3:10:35 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Is any other veteran amused by police departments using military ribbons for their local awards?
I couldn't care less.
Funny you should mention that, I’m right in the middle of a book written by the National Guard commander during the King riots. Actually, the vast majority of Angelinos favored conviction. The local media worked very hard to tell the public a one-sided story, including showing the edited version of the “beating” over and over.
I was one of the few civilians who believed the officers’ behavior was within policy, though inept, and have a clear memory of being “the lone ranger”.
The King case was actually the local media finally finding a test case for their ten year long anti-LAPD campaign. In that sense, it’s not unlike the media trying to force fit the Zimmerman case into their pre-written “Racist gun crazy white guy kills innocent teen” narrative”.
Why don’t you own a gun?
they might be able to try to ask for it but defense ought to be able to show they should not be able to bring it, because the evidence given doesn’t support what needs to be proven in order to find either voluntary or involuntary manslaughter. just as it doesn’t support murder 2.
FWIW: The samples were from slide, grip, trigger, and holster.
The grip had Zimmerman and some undeterminable party’s DNA. Martin was excluded.
The trigger wasn’t interpretable.
The slide had a male, neither Zimmerman nor Martin could be ruled out.
The holster had mixed DNA, Z was the major, Martin can NOT be ruled out as the minor conttrbutor.
There’s a statutory exception for the parents of the “victim” or their representative. Crump’s not in there because they are.
“She (and the corrupt prosecution team) hoped all those impressive-looking military service bars would influence the jurors as to her credibility.”
If she lied about the medals she was wearing, what else did she lie about and why hasn’t mom asked that her testimony be stricken because of the her faking the medals?
“I tend to doubt this”
I’d like to have a parade of blacks who GZ has helped along. And, I’d like to see them all come in in hoodies.
They found unknown DNA (not Martin’s) mixed with Zimmerman’s on the grip, an unidentified male’s on the slide, and DNA from at least 3 (one being Zimmerman) on the holster.
The 2012 Florida Statutes
Title XLVI
CRIMES
Chapter 776
JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE
776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—
(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.
(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.
(3) The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection (1).
Damn - that was going to be my comment...
Yeah, they’re out for blood this weekend.
Leni
She didn't have to wear 'stolen honor' ribbons or medals if she didn't CHOOSE to do so. No one could make her do it, either. She did it on her own and she earned none of the WW2 honors AT ALL. No wonder the vets across the fruited plain were ticked off when they saw her sporting them on TV.
If I were LE I wouldn't wear them on my daily cop job for a million dollars...and I bet she doesn't, either. She probably thought they would impress the jurors as she testified for the State's case against Zimmerman.
BTW, nice "chatting" with you....Happy Fourth, and "bon voyage" as you set out on your trip.
Leni
“I hope they recall Jeantel.”
As entertaining as that might be - and it WOULD be entertaining - I think these guys are smart enough to just leave her testimony where it is. From the defense perspective, it would be hard to improve on.
I can't tell from your comments whether or not you understand that the PD instituted a policy of using actual military pattern ribbons to represent POLICE awards. There wasn't necessarily any intention to suggest that the woman, or any other police officer, was awarded some specific military award. Rather, the PD was using these ribbons to represent whatever LAW ENFORCEMENT awards the officer wearing them might have earned as a police officer.
How this has lasted for as long as 10 or 15 years is what surprises me. I noticed the suspicious look of the medals when I watched the female officer testify.
I'm glad that Sanford PD has ended such a ridiculous practice and I still find myself wondering what other police forces around the nation have been using military pattern ribbons to represent their police awards.
Finally, I would point out to some other posters that it is not necessary to buy these ribbons as military surplus. You can buy newly manufactured ribbons that meet military specifications easily on line. This would permit a descendant of a decorated member of the military to replicate the arrangement of ribbons awarded to that relative.
“Perhaps she earned all those medals through an affirmative action program.”
Only if she has a time machine. IIRC, the Philippenes medal was last awarded in 1947. She was not even a gleam in her father’s eye then.
She is an excellent example of sheer effrontery, egregious impudence, and she is fraudulent to her core.
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