Posted on 07/03/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by kristinn
The Egyptian army has set a deadline of 4 p.m. Cairo time for the Muslim Brotherhood government of President Morsi to compromise with the people of Egypt (by stepping down.) Morsi refuses. 18 people were killed and 200 were wounded in clashes at Cairo University last night.
A Washington Post report from Cairo on dueling statements from Morsi and the army:
Waving his hands and shaking his fists in a 45-minute speech on national television late Tuesday, Morsi swore that he was committed to the democratic process that brought him to power and said that any attempts to subvert the constitution were unacceptable.
The army, in turn, posted a message to its Facebook page saying: We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.
In his speech, Morsi acknowledged that he had made mistakes during his year in office as Egypts first democratically elected president. But he appealed to Egyptians to give him more time to deal with the countrys problems.
Link to originial FR thread from Friday with many amazing photos.
WOW! Beautiful photo, isn’t it?
Do we now share Indepemcd day with Egypt ?
You’re absolutely right.
I’m praying for the freedom loving Egyptian people.
They’re very brave. God bless them.
“Message from Egyptians to all non-Egyptians who are listening to ‘CNN’.... “
Egyptians are translating CNN for us. LOL
See post 766 and 767. CNN is cautiously fretful. They are “worried” that this might have been a coup, while insisting is WAS a coup.
Apparently, whether or not it was a coup has legal and diplomatic repercussions.
I take that to mean “wiggle room” for Obama adm to maneuver.
Meanwhile, I liked the tweet:
Not Military Coup. Popular Impeachment #Egypt
I was stunned tonight at work...the utter unawareness of the employees and customers to this Historic Event...but my manager and I really got to talking about it...she apologized for loosing touch with news the last few days...but low and behold guess what!
She gets most of her news from “talk radio”! Hannity, Greta, and the Fox crew ..even listens to Savage! Levine etc. So it was with that in mind we began talking politics...
She raised the same questions so many do...What can we do about Obama ...what can we do to stop this all....then she smiled and said we need to do what Egypt did in just four days!
Darn it Onyx...just four days and the people were organized and even knew who would be handling the governance..and the military knew at just what point they would step up.
This was NOT a coup...the people already had the military easy to do what needed to be done. Had they not had the military...this would have played out very different.
When do we REALLY get a turn to change the course of the History we keep on ‘repeating’ from one election to the other?
“Hopefully it will help expose and remove the MB from the USA”
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Did you see my post up-thread?
If Egypt can remove its Muslim Brothers, so must we. An urgent investigation is needed on their penetration of our govt and influence on it.
Frank Gaffney, Facebook page
(Not certain this link gets you to the quote. I dont do FaceBook)
https://www.facebook.com/frankgaffneyjr/posts/3039249196671#!/frankgaffneyjr
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/
Our media is the “third” party at the top of the heap of the other two!
They need to get a dictionary and see what a coup is...this was NOT...the people had this already coming together long before they marched.
There’s an article I’ll see if I can Grab and post it here...the Egyptians are saying “finally someone tells it right” referencing it.
LOLOL on the “Not Military Coup. Popular Impeachment” ...Perfect!
We need one of those!!!
Here’s the article descibing in Brief how things were playing out “Before” the March.
How the Egyptian People Learned to Love Its ‘New” Military.
Key was “Sisi”
Good read.
Do we now share Independance day with Egypt ?
No...but some of the Egyptian tweeters are saying it’s “cool” so close to ours. Most of them really want the US people to understand and believe what they are saying about what’s happening there, rather than the media’s spin which infuriates them something awful.
We should all relate to that for the nonsense our own Media pulls.
Interesting is Prophetically , way down the road, Egypt is restored to favor with God, Israel, and mankind....but that’s a long way off unless He speeds things up pretty fast!
Chief Justice of High Constitutional Court, “Adly Mansor” to be sworn in as Egypt’s interim President ‘today’
Is it time for a 'popular impeachment' here in the USA?
All in favor say Aye.
Opposed no.
The Ayes have it!
And so it begins. . On Independence Day!
Time for all of us to reread the Declaration of Independence.
Pray for America and prepare.
So far:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/07/201373223029610370.html
International reactions to Morsi’s removal
Shortly after Egypt’s army commander announces that Morsi had been removed, world leaders began to weigh in.
Last Modified: 04 Jul 2013 01:20
The Egyptian army’s suspension of the constitution and removal of President Mohamed Morsi has drawn mixed responses from world leaders:
European Union
The European Union has called for a rapid return to democracy in Egypt.
“I urge all sides to rapidly return to the democratic process, including the holding of free and fair presidential and parliamentary elections and the approval of a constitution, to be done in a fully inclusive manner, so as to permit the country to resume and complete its democratic transition,” EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said in a statement on Thursday.
Ashton said she hoped Egypt’s new administration would be fully inclusive. She stressed the importance of ensuring full respect for fundamental rights and the rule of law and said she would hold the authorities to account.
“I strongly condemn all violent acts, offer my condolences to the families of the victims, and urge the security forces to do everything in their power to protect the lives and well-being of Egyptian citizens,” she said.
France
French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on Wednesday that Paris took note that elections had been announced in Egypt following a transition period after the army ousted president Mohamed Morsi.
“In a situation that has worsened seriously and with extreme tension in Egypt, new elections have finally been announced, after a transition period,” Fabius said in a statement.
France hoped a timetable would be drawn up respecting “civil peace, pluralism, individual liberties and the achievements of the democratic transition, so that the Egyptian people can freely choose their leaders and their future”, he added.
Saudi Arabia
Saudi King Abdullah sent a message of congratulations to the head of the Egyptian Constitutional Court, Adly Mansour, on Wednesday for being appointed interim head of state after the armed forces overthrew Morsi, the Saudi state news agency SPA reported.
“In the name of the people of Saudi Arabia and on my behalf, we congratulate your leadership of Egypt in this critical period of its history. We pray for God to help you bear the responsibility laid upon you to achieve the ambitions of our brotherly people of Egypt,” the message said.
Syria
Bashar al-Assad on Wednesday praised Egypt’s protests against their leader and said his overthrow by the military means the end of “political Islam”.
Assad, who is seeking to crush a revolt against his own rule, said Egyptians have discovered the “lies” of the Muslim Brotherhood.
He spoke in an interview with the state-run Al-Thawra newspaper to be printed in full Thursday.
“What is happening in Egypt is the fall of so-called political Islam,” Assad said. “This is the fate of anyone in the world who tries to use religion for political or factional interests.”
United Arab Emirates
The United Arab Emirates welcomed the change in Egypt, according to state news agency WAM, and praised the Egyptian armed forces.
“His Highness Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan, the foreign minister of the UAE, expressed his full confidence that the great people of Egypt are able to cross these difficult moments that Egypt is going through,” WAM said in a statement.
“Sheikh Abdullah said that the great Egyptian army was able to prove again that they are the fence of Egypt and that they are the protector and strong shield that guarantee Egypt will remain a state of institutions and law,” it added.
United Kingdom
Britain urged for calm in Egypt following the army’s ouster of Morsi and spoke out against the use of military intervention in bringing about regime change, but stopped short of calling it a coup.
“The situation is clearly dangerous and we call on all sides to show restraint and avoid violence,” said Foreign Secretary William Hague.
“The United Kingdom does not support military intervention as a way to resolve disputes in a democratic system,” Hague said in the statement.
Britain called on all parties to move forward and “show the leadership and vision needed to restore and renew Egypt’s democratic transition.”
“It is vital for them to respond to the strong desire of the Egyptian people for faster economic and political progress for their country,” stressed Hague.
This must involve early and fair elections and civilian-led government, he said.
“In the long run only democratic processes and government by consent will bring the stability and prosperity that the people of Egypt seek,” added the minister.
United States
The United States declined on Wednesday to criticise Egypt’s military, even as it was ousting of Morsi from power.
Shortly after Egypt’s army commander announced that Morsi, the country’s first democratically elected president, had been deposed and the constitution suspended the US State Department expressed concern over the military intervention.
The US ordered the mandatory evacuation of its embassy in Cairo, just hours after the army deposed Morsi. A later travel advisory confirmed that “the Department of State ordered the departure of non-emergency US government personnel and family members from Egypt due to the ongoing political and social unrest.”
US President Barack Obama released a statement saying he was deeply concerned by decision by Egyptian military to depose Morsi, and calls for a swift return to civilian government.
“No transition to democracy comes without difficulty, but in the end it must stay true to the will of the people. An honest, capable and representative government is what ordinary Egyptians seek and what they deserve,” Obama said.
“The long-standing partnership between the United States and Egypt is based on shared interests and values, and we will continue to work with the Egyptian people to ensure that Egypts transition to democracy succeeds.
However, the US also stopped short of calling the military intervention a coup.
Al Jazeeras Patty Culhane, reporting from Washington, noted that any country involved in a coup was not entitled to aid from the US.
This administratiom would do well to remember that Americans have the patience of Job but a firm belief in the Wrath of G-d. It’s arrogance and its war against G-d CANNOT STAND.
Patience is a virtue...until it isn’t.
It's Indepencence Day, round two, Day One!
our law is clear: U.S. aid is cut off when a democratically elected government is deposed by military coup or decree,
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It is not as simple as Liberal Leahy would have you believe. It comes down to how you characterize it. The action in Egypt is certainly not a conventional military coup where military officers decide on their own to take down the government. There is a decided difference when the people are the ones requesting the action against a tyrant who has commandeered their government and shown nothing but contempt for the will of people. I would call it a citizen's revolution, imposing the citizen's will on a dominating, tyrannical government. Our framers were no dummies and they including revolution as an option available to the people.
I'm guessing her family was middle-class. The Islamists, just like the Communists, come to power by promising goodies to the violent underclass, to be extracted from the productive middle-class.
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