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Day 18 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 3, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/03/2013 5:16:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 3rd, is DAY #18 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Rather than recap yesterday, I want to draw attention to some issues – A great recap is available HERE:

Yesterday, we got the first view on the horizon of the mud about to get slung by the State toward the character of George Zimmerman – Things are about to get intense.

Also, the State probably wants the jury to hear Sybrina, TrayMom™ and tears, last in the line-up prior to the long mid-week holiday break - so heads up for her this afternoon.

Tracy probably will not testify – due to his on-the-record lies now visible in evidence.

Remember, there is so much corruption in the assembly of this case you can expect the State to avoid the traditional witnesses brought by normal prosecutions.

The state has already won a pre-trial motion to bar the defense mentioning the absence of any witness from the State’s case.

So if the Seminole County Medical Examiner, or any LEO is not called to the stand – O’Mara cannot mention it. M.E. = Trayvon Blood Tox. etc.

The Scheme Team has, in their desperation, blitzed the media and geography. Daryl Parks, and Jasmine Rand are doing as much Cable News as possible. Jasmine is the David Axelrod of their scheme. She is also a well skilled liar, and working hand in hand to assist and counsel with the State.

Jasmine is also simultaneously trying to coordinate the narrative of Rachel Jeantel with Rod Vereen. You now have: Natalie Jackson, Ben Crump, Darryl Parks, Jasmine Rand, and Rod Vereen all working together to protect their narrative.

According to her girls: Alicia Stanley – has also been physically threatened and extorted to keep her mouth shut. They, all of them, are in full tactical combat operational mode to get their lynching money.

There is NOTHING they will not do. N.O.T.H.I.N.G.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: angelacorey; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

Have had to be away for awhile can you give me a synopsis of what you’re talking about please?


581 posted on 07/03/2013 9:01:35 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like she’s holding a Ruger LCP in that picture.

At least she doesn’t have her finger inside the trigger guard and appears to have the gun pointed in a safe direction.


582 posted on 07/03/2013 9:02:06 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: patriotspride

Is it just me or are they not constantly cutting the camera on GZ as much as they have been in previous days?


583 posted on 07/03/2013 9:02:21 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Momto2
"I know the answer - but doesn’t it seem that bringing in GZ’s college records should mean that the jury should hear about TM’s school records (including jewelry, burglary tools, drug use, etc. etc.) It is MUCH more on point as it shows that rather than GZ being *crazy* for suspecting TM - he would have been crazy NOT to suspect him!!! imo."

Didn't prosecution open the door to seeing TM's school records?

Probably would be overruled anyway...

584 posted on 07/03/2013 9:02:45 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: meyer
Only occasionally. Half of the time, she has her finger on the trigger and is pointing it at the jury.
585 posted on 07/03/2013 9:03:12 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Only occasionally. Half of the time, she has her finger on the trigger and is pointing it at the jury.

Yikes - a picture of that alone would discredit her as any kind of firearms "expert".

586 posted on 07/03/2013 9:04:22 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

two of the jurors have ad ccw training. That no no is lesson number one i imagine.


587 posted on 07/03/2013 9:04:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
Please re-read this carefully....I think you guys have Pleasants all wrong:

Why do we have a chief of police if he isn’t going to perform as we dictate? The answer is easy. Chief Lee is honest and morally sound. The Chief of Police is supposed to ensure the rights of the citizens are protected during criminal investigations. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that includes the suspect in this case. Chief Lee has an obligation to ensure a thorough investigation is conducted, ensure the rights of the suspect are not violated and to present the case to the State Attorney’s Office for determining prosecution; not determine guilt as many of have already done without a trial. Chief Lee has been the only person in Sanford who has stood up for the rights we cherish. The only problem is we tend to only want these rights to apply to “us” and not those we “think” are guilty.

Gordon Pleasants

588 posted on 07/03/2013 9:04:52 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: RummyChick

The prosecution has messed up so much of this case...

Nope. They are doing a great job. Problem is, they are like auto rebuilders and the case is an AMC Gremlin that was totalled, but thanks to their excellent work the Gremlin now looks showroom new.

Which means it is really Fugly. Like their case.


589 posted on 07/03/2013 9:05:26 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: EnquiringMind

Awesome clarification.


590 posted on 07/03/2013 9:06:16 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: hoosiermama

I was confused reading blogger comments. There was a petition on change.org calling for Zimmerman’s arrest. The last State witness was reported to sign it. What he did was to write a comment saying arrest needs to be based on evidence, not emotion flamed by race batters (my paraphrase of what he wrote). i commented wrongly based on the confusion of bloggers.


591 posted on 07/03/2013 9:07:15 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Tau Food

Amazing: a proper (even required by law) education on a subject is being used as proof of evil intent.


592 posted on 07/03/2013 9:08:04 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Toespi

Redirect: Could weapon be used to commit murder?

Objection.

Sustained.


593 posted on 07/03/2013 9:08:08 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

What an asinine question.


594 posted on 07/03/2013 9:08:56 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Uncle Chip

good chuckle- will they prosecute the expert if she kills the juror- or only if she kills the judge


595 posted on 07/03/2013 9:09:29 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: hummingbird; Momto2

Could be wrong, but TM isn’t the one on trial for a crime and I think that’s why they can exclude his school records.

I don’t think it’s tit-for-tat, an equal situation as between the defendant and the deceased. I know it seems unfair, because Z has every right to defend himself from the charge that he murdered Trayvon and it seems to go against his right. But I just think that’s the basis for not allowing school records in for both.

OTOH, when they put on witnesses that describe TM as such a fine, upstanding and wonderful young boy who would never have done anything so bad as Z has described, then perhaps the door could be opened to defend against THAT by bringing in counter info.

The pro TM witnesses will be there to gain sympathy from the jury. They’ve probably been coached to focus more on THEIR feelings and grief etc than how perfectly wonderful TM was. In order to avoid that very thing, that counter info coming in.

We’ll see what they have been coached to stress in their testimony.


596 posted on 07/03/2013 9:10:25 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: All


597 posted on 07/03/2013 9:10:30 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: hummingbird
"I know the answer - but doesn’t it seem that bringing in GZ’s college records should mean that the jury should hear about TM’s school records (including jewelry, burglary tools, drug use, etc. etc.) It is MUCH more on point as it shows that rather than GZ being *crazy* for suspecting TM - he would have been crazy NOT to suspect him!!! imo." Didn't prosecution open the door to seeing TM's school records?

People keep asking this question. The simple fact is that just because records of one side get entered does not mean the other sides have to be entered. The bottomline determination is whether they are relevant. With Zimmerman's transcripts the prosecution climed they showed that he knew the law on "Stand Your Ground." Trayvon's records have nothing to do with that. They have to have their own independnat relevance to the case.

If someone claims that Trayvon was a "little saint" the door will be opened to counter that false impression left with the jury. Until the door is opened, Trayvon's past is not relevant according to the judge. For the record, I disagree with the judge's rulng on that score since I thin it is relevant to show whether or not Trayvon might have attacked Zimmerman.

598 posted on 07/03/2013 9:10:47 AM PDT by lawdave
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

they did something similiar

something like

what would a bullet to the heart look like when talking about GZ injuries..objection sustained..

Bernie was just pulling a stunt at the end of the day


599 posted on 07/03/2013 9:11:02 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: longtermmemmory

Lesson 1: Assume all guns are loaded all of the time.

Lesson 2: Don’t ever point your weapon at anyone unless you fully intend to kill them.


600 posted on 07/03/2013 9:11:05 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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