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OK, it’s late, and probably no one will see this post, but I have read some non-FR message boards and I see a pattern.

In my upper-middle class white world, the person responsible for starting a fight is the first person who physically touches the other. Words, threats, “sticks and stones” don’t count. Nothing matters until physical assault occurs. In that (my) world, Martin probably started the fight.

In the world of many of the commenters anti-Zimmerman, Zimmerman became the aggressor by simply following or verbally confronting Martin. They believe that this was the initial act of aggression, and that Martin was then allowed to physically “defend himself” from this “stalker”.

The differences seem to be based on different rules of conflict in societies and culture. Being yelled at, stalked, or harassed is not a license for physical aggression in my world, but it appears to be in Martins and his defenders.


1,296 posted on 06/28/2013 5:40:56 PM PDT by jaybee
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To: jaybee

See my comment concerning a need for a continuum of force model for ccw carriers in a related thread here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3035392/posts?page=78#67


1,333 posted on 06/28/2013 7:50:23 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: jaybee

In the world of many of the commenters anti-Zimmerman, Zimmerman became the aggressor by simply following or verbally confronting Martin. They believe that this was the initial act of aggression, and that Martin was then allowed to physically “defend himself” from this “stalker”.

The differences seem to be based on different rules of conflict in societies and culture. Being yelled at, stalked, or harassed is not a license for physical aggression in my world, but it appears to be in Martins and his defenders.


Also the fact that more and more “ in your face” or in Jentels lingo “ in your grill” is deemed to be assault.

The concept of “ disrespect” and “ assaulted” have shifted to the touchy feely political correctness of today , where “ words always hurt me” and I can do whatever I want to get back at you.


1,366 posted on 06/29/2013 4:29:52 AM PDT by patriotspride
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