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Day 15 (Week #3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 28, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 06/28/2013 5:14:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, June 28th, is DAY #15 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. [Yesterday] … it was simply not a very good day at all for the prosecution. The primary State witnesses today were Rachel Jeantel, Jenna Lauer, and Selma Mora.

The first had her credibility substantively destroyed, the second was powerfully–almost humiliatingly–co-opted by the defense, and the third provided testimony entirely consistent with the defense’s theory of lawful self-defense. (continue reading)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; floridojudicirats; georgezimmerman; kangaroo; kangaroocourt; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Nervous Tick

That monk has a ‘Cabbage Patch’ head o.O


401 posted on 06/28/2013 9:15:03 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: JoeProBono

I thought there were grass stains on the knees of Treyvons jeans. This picture doesn’t show that Treyvon was actually sitting on Zimmerman...which would also verify that fact that John Good did not even see ZImmerman until he yelled for help. In my opinion, it looks like one person to Good until he heard a cry for Help from the person he said he saw after hearing a cry for help.


402 posted on 06/28/2013 9:16:20 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Uncle Chip
The state is trying to say that this witness may have seen Martin on top of him with his arms moving downward as if he is hitting him but he can’t say that he saw any of the blows connect to the face.

And though he heard the guy on the bottom crying out for help he can’t be 100% sure because he didn’t see his mouth.

It is almost like the state is trying to create "reasonable doubt" about GZ's self-defense claim. The only problem is that GZ doesn't have to prove self-defense - the state must DISPROVE self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt, and then must PROVE all of the elements of Murder 2 beyond a reasonable doubt.

403 posted on 06/28/2013 9:17:16 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Bronzy

If this thread wasn’t so important (and already very long), I would put in a Tech Ping.. you need to get rid of Norton >.< (Norton was great when Peter Norton still owned and ran it.. went off a cliff after that :/ ) ...

Back to regular scheduled info thread now ;)


404 posted on 06/28/2013 9:19:22 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Raebie

“Is a finding of manslaughter even an option?”

I read, and this may not be accurate, that either side may ask the judge to consider lesser charges if they want. The judge may not do so.

If the trial continues this badly for the state, I imagine the state will ask for the option of manslaughter. The Defense would, of course, fight that.

Time will tell I guess.


405 posted on 06/28/2013 9:19:48 AM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Uncle Chip
According to Bernie if I don’t see your mouth move then you are not saying anything...

Only for this witness. If you're on the phone with Trayvon and can't see his mouth moving your testimony is acceptable.

406 posted on 06/28/2013 9:19:58 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Java4Jay
RINO climber Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi hand picked the prosecutor who brought this case to trial. You might have seen her during the last election campaign making smoochie noises in close proximity to Romney's butt

never forget

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407 posted on 06/28/2013 9:20:19 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee

bkmk


408 posted on 06/28/2013 9:21:04 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: exit82
When I hear TV talking heads sputter how the trial is going swimmingly against Z, I laugh, and wonder, what the heck trial they are watching?

I believe the MSM is trying to prep the low-information voters out there that Z will be found guilty, and if by any obscure chance he is not, then mayhem must ensue.


reminds me of the last 2 elections we had to endure :/ ..
409 posted on 06/28/2013 9:21:30 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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‘IF ZIMMERMAN GET OFF, IMA GO KILL A WHITE BOY’: TRAYVON MARTIN SUPPORTERS MAKE SHOCKING THREATS AHEAD OF VERDICT
410 posted on 06/28/2013 9:21:47 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Sporke

And I would imagine this judge would allow that.


411 posted on 06/28/2013 9:22:02 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Nervous Tick
Thank shyster Crump for that. Oh, and it wouldn’t be right to leave out the fawning political correctness of the entire Floriduh “justice” machine.

Frankly, and it might seem a stretch, I think this goes all the way to the White House.

Great threads, people. I'm mostly lurking, but the play-by-play and the interjection of wise opinions is helping me to understand the entire situation as well as the legal process.

412 posted on 06/28/2013 9:22:19 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: CA Conservative

If the trial was about finding the truth and fairness, the judge would have instructed the jury to disregard and ordered stricken from the record of the witness thatadmittedunder oath she wrote the letter and then said she can’t read cursive writing.She obvisouly perhured herself numerous times, but none as blantent as that. the judge would also advise the State to investigte her for perjury. But since this is a kangeroo court, none of this will happen.


413 posted on 06/28/2013 9:23:09 AM PDT by sport
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To: sheikdetailfeather
My brother just sent an email to me and said John Good just blew the state out of the water.


Good to hear it's not only FReepers that saw (in my case, are reading) that :)

Honestly, this is a small example of what the BIG picture is.. happening to the country as a whole. But, I know I don't have to tell you that :p
414 posted on 06/28/2013 9:24:17 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: acw011
I can’t remember where I learned this - but I tell my wife this all the time - if you are ever in trouble don’t yell for help - YELL FIRE!!

Especially if you fall into a vat of chocolate.

415 posted on 06/28/2013 9:24:25 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Bikkuri

the MSM would LOVE a riot. Their ratings have been low lately.


416 posted on 06/28/2013 9:24:26 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: Elle Bee; Java4Jay
Yup - Bondi (Rep)

Also, Corey (Rep)

Florida GOP Gov Scott gave a Pontius Pilate-like assist too.
417 posted on 06/28/2013 9:24:57 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Fawn

interesting how much hatred and vitriol there is in that community.

Of course, the blog comments will all be filled with comments from white liberal women will proudly post how they understand these misunderstood victimized individuals.


418 posted on 06/28/2013 9:27:01 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Yeah, I understand completely (I never was for ground game myself...).. but it definately was not a crucifix..Zimm still had use of his arms... but you are correct; this needs to be explained for those who have NO idea what MMA and the MMA terms are.


419 posted on 06/28/2013 9:27:11 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Sporke

I understood a pretrial agreement that its either guilty of 2nd degree murder or nothing


420 posted on 06/28/2013 9:27:13 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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