Posted on 06/28/2013 5:14:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, June 28th, is DAY #15 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. [Yesterday] … it was simply not a very good day at all for the prosecution. The primary State witnesses today were Rachel Jeantel, Jenna Lauer, and Selma Mora.
The first had her credibility substantively destroyed, the second was powerfully–almost humiliatingly–co-opted by the defense, and the third provided testimony entirely consistent with the defense’s theory of lawful self-defense. (continue reading)
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That could be. Clearly Bernie expected something different from John than he got and got mad at him and then tried to impeach him.
Before the trial O’Mara brought before the court an attorney representing 3 of the witnesses and asked the court for them to testify anonymously. He might have been one. Jenna Lauer another.
It seemed that this John Good was under a lot of pressure to mitigate his testimony to say he wasn’t sure now about some things but he pretty much stuck to his previous testimony.
Maybe for all of these witnesses West and O’Mara are going to get them jobs out of town. Note that most of them had already moved from that apartment complex.
The injuries have nothing to do with it if Martin was onl top, having noticed the gun, was attempting to get the gun and was telling the “white-ass cracker” he was going to die. that would have defininely put GZ in fear for his life if he were a rational person. The injuries only serve to collaberate GZ’s story of what happened. If GZ knew Martin saw the gun and was going for it, he knew it was either himself or Martin who was going to die. Martin had already sucker punched him and taken him to the ground, on top of him pounding away.
Witness tampering? Hope they get nailed. Taught school for years. Many special needs similar to DD. What they did- how they used that child is unforgivable. Her parents will have to move or return to the island for her to be safe. If she’d been offered protection I’d guarantee her testimony would have been even more varied from when she sat next to Ts mom
that’s hilarious — and yet Parks said she did so well on the stand.
I wonder if her handlers [her attorney is apparently connected to the scheme teamers] knew that she was going to tell us about the “creepy ass cracker” stuff??? or were they surprised as well???
I think the judge can instruct on a lesser charge, but I believe the defendant would have to agree on the instruction. If I were Zimmerman I’d only allow the murder instruction. Chat
Her attorney is Rod Vereen — connected to the Scheme Team.
When things go south they are setting her up to take the fall.
No more.
To her, the correct response was exactly what she said. She was privy to GZ's medical history and so was O'Mara. O'Mara ran a risk asking a question about what could become a very touchy subject of a Prosecution witness who was attempting to give a full and complete answer.
Isn't there a rule that lawyers follow that is something along the lines of: Never ask a question of a witness that you don't already know the answer?
They can subpoena any medical records they want and the keeper of the records. The witness will state they have the records but will be unable to release any information without written authorization
Unfortunately I agree. The ghetto crowd all see themselves or their brother or boyfriend when they see Trayvon. They see how much disgust and contempt many people have towards Trayvon.
They see themselves or their sisters when the see Rachel and how much she is looked down upon.
Many have been itching for a huge riot to manifest their hatred and love for savagery but have just needed the right event to unite them.
If acquittal is coming so is a huge riot. Unfortunately our government won’t let this crisis go to waste.
lol
All the more reason she should have been offered protection. Shame LEO didn’t find her first like on The First 48. ;-)
Her passive resistant behavior and the survival lies that accompany it may have disappeared if she was guaranteed safety and support.
A manicure really didn’t buy much.
Safety and Support?
I was on her facebook page and she has HUNDREDS of supporters! This gal ain’t sufferin’ ...believe me!
So am I. Darn tired.
Good question. The State will presumably keep digging a deeper hole, since all legit evidence points to self-defense. Someone above my post suggests more house-keeping witnesses, e.g., the Medical Examiner (and there was rumor of some second ME, but who knows what became of that). Funeral Home guy? Serino, Martin, and Fulton (for finale) might well be called. Can’t see Crump.
1. Serino trades the fact that he wanted to charge GZ with something, but that lets in the dispute within SPD/local SA on even charging GZ, which opens up the fact that no Grand Jury ever heard evidence or indicted GZ (the Defense needs to get that in front of the jury);
2. Tracy Martin might evoke sympathy, but he also has a bad temper and no self-control. Get him riled on cross and he either spills some beans or reminds the jury about acorns and trees. Questions in cross about why he didn’t supervise suspended TM, why he didn’t notice he was missing, why TM was in Sanford, etc., open lots of doors. So far, the State seems to be focusing only on the incident (except for GZ’s prior calls). Tracy wasn’t there for his son, so he’s irrelevant as a State’s witness;
3. Crump has nothing except hearsay. Unless BdlR has blown his last brain cell, I can’t him see calling Crump.
4. Sybrina will take the stand, performing not so much for the jury as for the media stooges and Traybots, but only if Nelson lets her place love-offering cans in court.
Will BdlR go so low as to call SZ and claim they hid funds and were going to flee on an expired passport; fake jailhouse snitches; etc.? You betcha.
But she would have had those same people attacking her if she had told the entire truth
To tell the entire truth she would have needed support equal to what they are giving her for the half truths. Plus a pedicure to go with the manicure
By my understanding, a manslaughter conviction could be appropriate in a self-defense case where someone was attacked unlawfully, but not with deadly force, and reacted in a manner which was not intended to be deadly force but, because of negligence, nonetheless killed the attacker. As a hypothetical, if GZ were to claim that he tried to fire a shot at the ground to scare off TM, but TM deflected his hand, and if the jury believed such a claim but did not believe deadly force was justified, a manslaughter charge might be appropriate.
In the extant situation, however, I think both sides have essentially stipulated that Zimmerman willfully shot at TM. As such, I do not think a judge would spontaneously entertain any notion to the contrary.
Judge Alex Ferrer on Hannity names the case law that states prosicution must present any witness with knowledge of case If they don’t and defense brings it up its pointed out to jury AND ..... ????
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