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Key Witness Against George Zimmerman Is Hard to Understand, Harder to Believe
Reason Magazine's Hit & Run ^ | June 27, 2013 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 06/27/2013 7:15:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Yesterday and today, jurors in George Zimmerman's murder trial heard testimony from a key prosecution witness: Rachel Jeantel, the 19-year-old_friend of Trayvon Martin who was on the phone with him right before the scuffle that ended in his death. Jeantel said that Martin repeatedly complained to her about a "creepy-*ss cracker" who was following him and that she urged him to run, which he did. After the call was dropped, she said, she called him back about 20 seconds later, and he sounded tired from running. She said he told her he saw the man again, and she heard him say, "Why are you following me for?" She said she heard "a hard-breathing man" reply, "What you doing around here?" At that point, she said, she heard "a bump" as Martin's cellphone headset fell on the ground and "the sound of wet grass." After that, "I calling, 'Trayvon, Trayvon,'" Jeantel said. "I kind of heard Trayvon saying, 'Get off, get off.' Suddenly the phone hung up, shut off."

Jeantel's testimony, which continues as I write, contradicts Zimmerman's claim that he stopped following Martin and was assaulted by him without provocation. Her account implies that it was Zimmerman who tackled Martin, rather than the other way around. How credible is her version of events? Not very.

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Over all, Jeantel is a decidedly unimpressive witness, slurring her words and speaking so softly that at times she can barely be heard, becoming increasingly testy as West highlights the inconsistencies in her testimony. Virtually all of her responses so far have included the word sir, sometimes repeated several times in the same sentence, usually tinged with sarcasm. At one point, in response to West's suggestion that Martin planned to start a fight with Zimmerman, she responded, "That's real retarded, sir."(continued)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; kangaroocourt; railroaded; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Bullish

“This ‘lady’ is so inbred that I think the goiters are just the beginning of her problems. “

When I first saw her, I thought she was wearing the latest carbon fiber motor cycle helmet!


121 posted on 06/27/2013 11:07:12 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: madprof98

how do you cancel a country?.....I guess the best thing is to split it up....I just want to be proud of America again, and its people, and I just am not....


122 posted on 06/28/2013 12:44:31 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Uncle Chip

the prosecutor didn’t believe anything...he “arranged” things to suit the need.....


123 posted on 06/28/2013 12:46:47 AM PDT by cherry
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To: TChad
"Behold the low-information voter who rules the new America."

exactly right.....we tend to believe that the SMART and EDUCATED people and people of good moral character will always win out, but that is just not true...

its those with a lesser intellect that is not confined by rational ideas or morality or character...that is who is going to win out....

124 posted on 06/28/2013 12:52:15 AM PDT by cherry
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To: RugerMini14; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: Is there a website from which to order my “Crazy Ass Cracker” t-shirt yet?

You expect me to believe... they would print up a t-shirt like they do for Star Trek?

Yet...

Gadzooks, I guess... they do--

125 posted on 06/28/2013 2:08:05 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: dr_lew
Really? I'm pretty smart, but I'm a terrible liar, and I refrain from it largely on that basis. It's too much trouble.

I didn't say smart people lie more. In fact, I would say they lie less, because they understand the problems involved in telling lies. Which is also why, when smart people do lie, they are better at it than dumb people. And the latter is what I said.

126 posted on 06/28/2013 4:17:25 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: RugerMini14

Yes there is! We have the print shop ready and will begin offering t-shirts for sale around noon today!

Www.CrazyAssCracker.biz

Come check us out!!!


127 posted on 06/28/2013 4:34:48 AM PDT by CrazyAssCrackerTshirts (Get your Crazy Ass Cracker t-shirts here!!!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
nothing is expected of her, but all of her needs will be taken care of. Me? I’m just the sucker who gets screwed every day while I struggle to keep her afloat.

I know that, but it's hard to really get it.

128 posted on 06/28/2013 4:41:02 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Bullish
Agreed. Can't decide why, but Corey is obnoxious to me. If I went in to Rick's Pawn, I would not let Corey wait on me. He tries to rip people off to make himself look good.

vaudine

129 posted on 06/28/2013 5:13:22 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Bender2

Regarding Uhura: Swipage Imminent!


130 posted on 06/28/2013 5:15:26 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

I read a couple of apologias linked through Drudge.

We whites just don’t understand this woman’s culture. She is, after all, bi-lingual. She has long-standing cultural reasons for not trusting police and no black would ever call 911. She didn’t visit or attend the funeral because she is too sensitive to be near illness, injury or death. She omitted key information when speaking to Martin’s mother out of sensitivity and extreme respect of her elders. She is authentic and beautiful and no white can ever get that because we are so flawed by virtue of our white privilege. Her intransigence and outright hostility towards the defense attorney was hilarious and of course, *cracka* and the n-word are just common descriptive slang terms with no racist content.

I think I will go back to avoiding all information from the media on this trial.


131 posted on 06/28/2013 5:35:38 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live/work in Atlanta suburbs. He11 yeah I expect rioting.


132 posted on 06/28/2013 5:39:04 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: reformedliberal

That’s great!

Wait... it wasn’t sarcasm. Oh. Wow. That’s one screwed up culture.


133 posted on 06/28/2013 5:41:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yeah.

I keep wondering: if their culture is so inaccessible to us and our culture is totally rejected by them, why are we supposed to understand, let alone accept, their culture? Why aren’t they scorned for refusing to assimilate or, at the least, understand our POV?

It is no wonder that white kids emulate black culture. They must, in order to be acceptable in their academic and peer milieu. Do those white kids ever question this state of affairs?

It is, I conclude, all smoke and mirrors. Had Rachel appeared as a slender, articulate young black woman who could move with ease in any level of society and demonstrate a basic level of educational achievement, yet still given the same type of testimony, what would the prog culture mavens have said about her? I doubt she would have been praised. What would they have concluded about white female witnesses of varying socio-econmic levels who gave conflicting testimony, showed attitude and a lack of self-control? Again, I wonder if they would have been savaged by the culture critics.

The media, both MSM and alternative blogger media, is treating this (and by extension, everything) as a reality show popularity contest. It is all about tribal affiliations, not logic or law. The result, whatever it is, will not be justice.


134 posted on 06/28/2013 11:57:19 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
I read a couple of apologias linked through Drudge...yeah, the deliberate and unintentional inaccuracies in her testimony, no matter how they affect the outcome in the trial and the future of George Zimmmerman's life, must be accepted because she can't help where she came from - it's like your surgeon the alcoholic shows up drunk to take out your appendix and you tell him "so you can't stand up straight and your hands are shakin' - no problem Doc, I know you can't help it - go ahead and operate" - none of those apologists would buy that for sure.....
135 posted on 06/28/2013 8:53:44 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Telling the truth is the easiest thing on earth to do. Lying is what makes testifying complicated and difficult.


136 posted on 06/28/2013 8:55:35 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Ditter

I came across a very interesting article in another thread on this, that brings a number of related things into sharper focus.

Race, Values, the O.J. Verdict, and Right-To-Carry, or
A Statistician Explains a Conundrum
http://web.archive.org/web/20070706054607/http://www.john-ross.net/race&rtc.htm

It does not leave me with much hope for rapprochement with the larger Black community.


137 posted on 06/29/2013 7:37:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
Very interesting article, thanks.

We used to live in rural Texas and we owned a cattle ranch. My husband hired all black cowboys, some of them became good faithful friends with whom we had very frank conversations.

I will never forget a conversation I had with Eugene. He told me that “comin’ up we was told that The (white) Man ain't never gonna let you be nuthin’ or do nuthin’”.

That was shocking to me because I thought all children were told to grow up and be the best you can be. Go to school if you can but work hard and be honest in all things.

I think this is still going on in the black community. After Katrina there was a young black man here fixing my dishwasher, we got into a conversation about hurricane Katrina. He was absolutely convinced that George Bush had bombed the levees for the purpose of drowning black people.

I asked him how he came to that (shocking) conclusion and he said his older black relatives who still lived in NO had told him.

I tried to explain to him that a levee washes out from the bottom because of the action of the water pushing against it. He seemed open to that but probably went back to his old way of thinking when he left my house.

138 posted on 06/29/2013 8:03:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: chris37

“Something is wrong with the ability to see even the most simple of truths, I do not get it.”

That is the statement of the century! We have devolved into a country of candy-a$$ed whiners who think that everything that’s wrong in their lives is someone else’s fault. And there are a gaggle of PI lawyers salivating to take their cases. With what passes for “citizens” here today, if it were 1776 again, the British would win. No, scratch that, they are bigger candy-a$$es than we are. I guess I really don’t know who would win today’s war of liberation. We have allowed the Marxists to take over, and completely ruin our education system, as evidenced by that black hippo “star witness” in the Zimmerman trial. And the “talking heads have the temerity to ‘tell us” that we “don’t understand her culture and that in reality she’s a Mensa who is just distainfully tolerating the white lawyers because “we all know” that calllng “whitey” a “cracker” isn’t the least bit racist.


139 posted on 06/29/2013 9:44:53 PM PDT by vette6387
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