SCOTUS: same-sex marriage decisions - Live Thread (Decisions at 97, 194, & 217)

Free Republic | 06/26/2013 | BuckeyeTexan

[onyx]

LOL.
Excellent.

[NonValueAdded]

Yes, but not until after a half zillion Equal Protection cases forcing the other states to honor the marriages from the 11 "progressive" states.

I haven't read the opinion yet but I'd be astonished if they did not touch upon the fallout in the dissent. After all, DOMA was passed with the specific intent of curing the Equal Protection issue.

[BuckeyeTexan]

See 136 above.

[Outraged At FLA]

“You have no moral backbone. Enjoy the fruits of your labors.”

Enjoy setting the example of how well it works pushing your definition of morality on everyone else. I believe that is what Obamacare is too..

My morality says it is immoral to use force. Yours apparently does not. Enjoy your moral depravity.

[EternalVigilance]

Marriage is a spiritual bond, but it is also a civil bond, one that provides the mortar that holds the foundations of civil society together, and provides the possibility of fulfilling the ultimate stated purpose of our Constitution: “To secure the Blessings of Liberty to our Posterity.”

The whole “leave it up to the states” or “keep government out of it” position is thoughtless and ignorant, to be perfectly frank about it. It just doesn’t comport with reality.

[alancarp]

Never again allow The Left to claim that there is 'separation of church and state': they just demanded and have now won the enshrinement of a purely religious device (marriage) into Constitutional protection.

[caww]

But by giving gays marriage benefits, doesn't this then force them to accept that gay marriage is equal to the acceptable definition of marriage...so it changes the definition of marriage' by default?

[OneWingedShark]

Alright, well what about me? I’m gay but I like vaccuum cleaners sexually and I want to marry a llama. What about me? Where’s MY equal protection?

In a box of condoms.

;)

Morning Laz.

[Fishtalk]

I think you are correct, as I understand it.

[Outraged At FLA]

Can you show me George and Martha Washington’s marriage license please?

[dbehsman]

I can stand before God. You can stand before Satan. Enjoy the trip, you’ve earned it.

[Perdogg]

It sounds like all the court said was that in States that recognized gay marriage, those federal benefits must apply to those individuals. Apparently it did not say that other states were required to recognize the union.

[ScottinVA]

I just messaged to Amy Howe at SCOTUSblog for an explanation.

[onyx]

CORRECT.

[Fishtalk]

Thank you PD.

I just listened to Andrew Napalatano on Fox and he says essentially what you say.

[Teacher317]

The REAL solution is the one that nobody ever hears about, of course... and it has NOTHING to do with sexual orientation, religious sacraments, Equal Protection, or Freedom of Religion. If government stopped treating MARRIED people differently from SINGLE people, this issue goes away in an instant! But our Beloved Overlords will never consider dropping one iota of societal control... ever... and so the media dances with glee about the ability to preside over a Constitutional argument where both sides have a legitimate claim. (And they relish opening the debate with a lie, that "gay marriage" should be legalized, even though NOTHING about making a lifetime commitment to someone of the same gender is currently illegal.)

The ONLY differences between married and single Americans are minor tax variations, a handful of probate rules, insurance regulations, and DNR decisions. Allow Americans the FREEDOM to choose who to put on their insurance, and allow insurers the FREEDOM to charge rates as appropriate by actuarial tables... tax us ALL the same, whether single or wedded... allow changes to DNR and probate defaults so that a lifetime loving partner can be chosen over a disapproving parent who hasn't talked to their child in decades... and the debate ENDS IN A DAY! But again, our government will never allow for more Freedom and slightly less control for themselves... so here we are.

[Biggirl]

This country will break up along red states/blue states.

[Outraged At FLA]

“The whole “leave it up to the states” or “keep government out of it” position is thoughtless and ignorant, to be perfectly frank about it. It just doesn’t comport with reality.”

Really? So the government isn’t qualified to run Obamacare, the IRS, the DMV, etc., but it is okay for them to dictate how marriages work. Got it. I apologize for my ignorance.

[Yosemitest]

How Satanic of a decision can you get ?
This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For it is written:

“ For whosoever shall commit ANY of these abominations,
even the SOULS that commit them
SHALL BE CUT OFF from among their people. ”

Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.

It was given by our Heavenly Father to test us
to see ... if we will OBEY our Heavenly Father,
and abide by His commandments, statues, and ordinances.

Someone once asked

"Why are they [homosexuals] all so angry?"

The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE".

rep·ro·bate \ˈre-prə-ˌbāt\ a. [L. reprobatus, reprobo, to disallow; re and probo, to prove.]

1. Not enduring proof or trial; not of standard purity or fineness; disallowed; rejected.


Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the Lord hath rejected them. Jer. 6.




2. Abandoned in sin; lost to virtue or grace.

They profess that they know God, but in works deny him, being abominable and disobedient, and to every good work reprobate. Titus 1.

3. Abandoned to error, or in apostasy. 2Tim. 3.

And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

But will we OBEY our Heavenly Father?

[OneWingedShark]

I've searched the Constitution diligently, and nowhere do I find judicial power to "repeal" or veto laws.

You know, I made that same point to the Romney-pushers who said that he'd repeal Obamacare...
But then the IRS, NSA, and Fast & Furious all indicate that the Constitution is meaningless for one reason: there are no consequences for violating it.