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To: Gaffer

Edward Snowden may or may not have impaired judgment, but that is not the subject of the discussion. Is he, or is he not, a traitor?. If so, to what set of ideals is he a “traitor”? If he is not a traitor, then to what set of ideals does he pledge allegiance to?

It was my understanding he was a typical Obamabot in 2008, and was greatly disillusioned when he saw the transformation of his idol into an apostle of George W. Bush, continuing the unconscionable practices set into motion by the Homeland Security Act of 2002, which included widespread collection of “metadata” and judgments based on data collected in this manner.


20 posted on 06/25/2013 7:02:37 AM PDT by alloysteel (Unattended children will be given a Red Bull and a free Kazoo. Reminds me of Congress...)
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To: alloysteel

Being a traitor solely rests on the shoulders of the originating agencies involved and the Department of Justice.

Your understanding of him in 2008 is different than mine. In mine, he gave money to Ron Paul....

Regardless, like I said, traitor is a definition applied by those in power.

Just like those in power chose not to apply that moniker to Sandy “I stole Top Secret Documents with WJC handwritten margin notes on them and stuffed them in my pants” Berger (who testified he later stuffed them into a dumpster or something).

Just like that so-called blonde secretary thingy (Valerie Plame, wife of a former Ambassador Joe Wilson who lied re: yellowcake in Libya) at the CIA who claimed she was an “undercover agent” outed by Scooter Libby who thusly went to jail over lies.

I DON’T think of Snowden as a traitor because the Obama Administration and our corrupt intelligence services say he is. They lied, they lie to us daily, they will always lie to us. They lie while appealing to your patriotism with more lies and expect you (us) to get indignant and indict him without trial.


24 posted on 06/25/2013 7:19:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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