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To: NCjim
I spy, you spy, we all spy. That's the way the world works.

He sure has put a bug up Obama's .....

The idea that ONE PERSON can bundle all the info is ridiculous. I can see a slice....but the whole apple??? That tells me the system is not secure....and our system is NOT secure.

4 posted on 06/24/2013 4:13:05 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

The idea that ONE PERSON can bundle all the info is ridiculous. I can see a slice....but the whole apple??? That tells me the system is not secure....and our system is NOT secure.


And who is responsible for this outrage? No wonder they want to silence him. No way he’ll make it to a court alive.


9 posted on 06/24/2013 4:17:02 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Sacajaweau
The idea that ONE PERSON can bundle all the info is ridiculous. I can see a slice....but the whole apple???

So all the reports after 9/11 found that it was ridiculous that one person COULDN'T get "the whole apple." People were obsessed with not being able to "connect the dots" so everyone frantically tried to make classified data as networked and sharable as possible.

Then we had Manning and then, Snowden.

Snowden is different in that he's a sysadmin. You can't have a sysadmin that can do his job effectively without far more access than everyone else.

If you restrict access and create lots of little firewalls, you greatly impair the ability of legitimate analysts to do their work which can result in bad decisions and in extreme cases, terror attacks happen that could have been prevented if one person had enough access to "connect dots." But if you network and share info, then bad apples like Manning and Snowden have access to VAST amounts of information. You can't win either way.

18 posted on 06/24/2013 4:28:45 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Sacajaweau

Personally, I think he was “allowed” to get this sensitive information by the “One”. Remember when Obama said just give me more time when talking to Russian President?

What if this all wasn’t allowed to happen- to give away our secrets...and then claim it was done by a particular person..someone labeled a traitor....who just happens to go to end up in Russia.

Sorry I am just not buying what they are trying to sell us....


35 posted on 06/24/2013 5:34:35 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: Sacajaweau

They worry this recent quote from Snowden was not an exaggeration: ” I had access to the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all over the world. The locations of every station, we have what their missions are, and so forth.”
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I don’t know who the “They” are but the idea that Snowden would have access of this sort is ridiculous. One of the main weapons that the Intelligence community uses to keep their secrets safe is by utilizing “compartmentalization”. What that means is that you physically isolate program personnel and data program by program. Very few people if any have “at their fingertips” access to all angency data.

And the inference that Snowden has the names of our spies is simply laughable. Does anyone believe that a list of them is available via Internet access?


36 posted on 06/24/2013 5:34:39 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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