Posted on 06/23/2013 11:20:43 AM PDT by Dallas59
EL MONTE, Calif. (KTLA) — Police were investigating the fatal officer-involved shooting of a two-year-old German shepherd inside the fenced-in yard of a family in El Monte.
Officers came to the home on Maxson Road on Wednesday to follow-up on a report of a runaway teenager.
The encounter with the dog, named Kiki, was recorded by a home security camera.
It showed two police officers arriving at the home of Cathy Luu and her husband Chi Nguyen around 4:30 p.m. Wednesday.
Police said the officers shook the gate and otherwise took care to check if there were dogs present in the yard before opening the gate and entering, according to a report in the San Gabriel Valley Tribune.
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So there's not a *single* set of circumstances in which some would be justified in hurting your dog? So if your dog's brain is someday infected with some virus (or someday suffers a head injury that you're unaware of) that causes behavioral changes and,having been made more volatile,he rushes some little toddler walking with her mommy that mother wouldn't,under *any* circumstances,be allowed to draw the little .22 she has in her purse or swing the baseball bat she might be carrying?
A fact that might argue in favor of the shooter being justified in having shot in the first place.
Actually, yes. That happens occasionally.Officers are not required to experience discomfort or risk ơf mussing their uniforms. any level of force is justified to prevent these things. "I felt threatened," justifies any use of force at all.
Don’t shoot and they’re fine,wound or kill one of the group and the rest will go into full attack mode.As will I if someone discharges a weapon in or near my house.
In before some “holster sniffer” comes to the defense of this poor overworked badge monkey.
Of course no sane individual wants gunfire to occur on,or near,his property.But would you care to qualify that statement by adding the words "unless he/she has a *damn* good reason"?
Can you think of a “damn good reason” for firing a weapon in my yard or house?We live out in a rural area and I’m hard pressed to think of one myself.
Perhaps you'd spend some time,as have I,checking out the numerous "police dashcam" videos on youtube.I humbly submit to you that there *are*,at least *some*,situations where a cop has *damn* good reason to fear for his/her *own* safety and/or the safety of other innocent people.One of my favorites involved a scumbag punk in New Hampshire named Liko Kenny who shot a local cop in the back and ran over him while he lay dying.If you have time check it out.There are several video's...at least one is long and the other one is short (the murder of the cop).Here's a hint for ya...he had a "long history" with the local constabulary.
Latest control tactic? Far too many stories like this lately.
No, not one.
I have Irish Wolfhounds. This breed is known for it’s gentleness. I’ve had this breed since 1988 and don’t know of ONE instance were Wolfhounds became aggressive.
I live on a farm and have 8 acres fenced in by Invisible Fence. People around here know better than to enter someone’s property uninvited. If they did, my Wolfhounds would approach them and may bark, but never harm them. They don’t care about property, but if someone tried to harm a member of my family, look out! They would be knocked flat on their backs and held down by a 180 pound dog. Wolfhounds rarely bite...they don’t have to. Their size is enough to intimidate.
I am with my dogs almost around the clock. If they exhibited any behavioral changes, I’d keep the dog contained and take them to the vet as soon as I could get an appointment.
My dogs mean a lot to me. They have better health insurance than do I.
Is there body armor available for dogs???
Wrong. You were in more than an hour after that ship sailed.
Someday, sooner or later, the cops are going to shoot some ones dog and there is going to be a massacre.
Shoot a dog win a donut.
Absolutely no reason for this.
I can think of lots of "damn good reasons".If your life is anything like mine none of them are very likely to occur but here's one that comes quickly to mind....
Your 22 years old son,or grandson,has been acting strangely recently.Nobody knows it yet but he's in the early stages of schizophrenia,approaching the middle stages.In one of the delusional states he's been suffering (unknown to anyone) he believes that people are out to get him.He takes his younger sister hostage,with a knife to her throat,and starts talking gibberish.The cops have been called but before they arrive he says/does something that makes you fear that he's within seconds of cutting his sister's throat.You fire...instinctively.
Tragic? Of course.But might that qualify as "damn good"?
Remember,Marvin Gaye's father had to shoot and kill his son who,it was reported,had been riddled by booze and drugs for some time.
Is this the incident where the cops claimed to have a warrant,but the warrant wasn’t actually signed until the next day?
I thought we were talking about strangers firing a weapon on my property,not me or a family member.Try again please.
OK...a magazine salesman,not intending to hurt anyone,arrives at your door and is greeted by the same schizophrenic son/grandson.Your kin rushes the salesman with the knife,yelling and screaming.The salesman happens to be packing (legally).Your kin gets the worst of the encounter.The autopsy shows the brain deterioration that's characteristic of early/mid state schizophrenia.
Or I could place a variation of the the Zimmerman/Saint Trayvon incident in your front yard.The evidence that I've seen certainly suggests (strongly suggests) that Zimmerman had "damn good reason".
mid *stage* schizophrenia.
Of course there are exist such situations, and those situations have been used in recent years to to justify unlimited license to shoot living beings, human or otherwise while on duty. It is pervasive enough that the normal reaction to a police shooting, from many such as I who used to defend police until a cop was proved criminal or psycho as a defendant or a patient, is now to assume that the shooting was egregious until proven otherwise. Police department attitudes seem purposefully to be saying screw the citizens, we are supreme. That attitude helps to limit my range of reaction possibilities in the matter of police shootings. The police chiefs and unions are strongly implying that they have unlimited rights to shoot and may not be second-guessed. That attitude alone will assure that there is an ever increasing number of arbitrary killings by police.
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