[khelus]

Re: that’s because they hand out engineering degrees and doctorates in India like candy and we import these idiots.

While this is true, I have two observations:

One: Unless the Indian national assimilates to our culture and business customs, they don't do well. The cultural differences are too great.

Two: The Indians I have worked with have been quite skilled, but perhaps this is a minority. I do know that India has very severe corruption problems, so paper credentials are not a useful gauge of their skill.

One: Agreed

Two: Not in my experience. Those skilled are a very small minority. Most couldn't program themselves into or out of a paper bag. I have many friends in the field with the same observation.

Three: On the whole, paid way less than Americans. Have suppressed rates at least by 1/3.
Many morph into illegals. And work the same way the Mexicans do - through companies that vouch for them and sell their services at such a low price, they are subsidized by tax payers with government freebies.

They are very comfortable with government freebies. India is a very socialist, big government, crony 'capitalist' country.

Large corporations love them because they are CHEAP.

[dfwgator]

Indian programmers are good...if you detail the programming specs down to a T.

Heck if you spend that much time detailing the specs, you might as well go ahead and code it yourself.