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To: Carry_Okie
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539684

Glyphosate-based herbicides are toxic and endocrine disruptors in human cell lines. Gasnier C, Dumont C, Benachour N, Clair E, Chagnon MC, Séralini GE. SourceUniversity of Caen, Institute of Biology, Lab. Biochemistry EA2608, Esplanade de la Paix, 14032 Caen cedex, France. Abstract Glyphosate-based herbicides are the most widely used across the world; they are commercialized in different formulations. Their residues are frequent pollutants in the environment. In addition, these herbicides are spread on most eaten transgenic plants, modified to tolerate high levels of these compounds in their cells. Up to 400 ppm of their residues are accepted in some feed. We exposed human liver HepG2 cells, a well-known model to study xenobiotic toxicity, to four different formulations and to glyphosate, which is usually tested alone in chronic in vivo regulatory studies. We measured cytotoxicity with three assays (Alamar Blue, MTT, ToxiLight), plus genotoxicity (comet assay), anti-estrogenic (on ERalpha, ERbeta) and anti-androgenic effects (on AR) using gene reporter tests. We also checked androgen to estrogen conversion by aromatase activity and mRNA. All parameters were disrupted at sub-agricultural doses with all formulations within 24h. These effects were more dependent on the formulation than on the glyphosate concentration. First, we observed a human cell endocrine disruption from 0.5 ppm on the androgen receptor in MDA-MB453-kb2 cells for the most active formulation (R400), then from 2 ppm the transcriptional activities on both estrogen receptors were also inhibited on HepG2. Aromatase transcription and activity were disrupted from 10 ppm. Cytotoxic effects started at 10 ppm with Alamar Blue assay (the most sensitive), and DNA damages at 5 ppm. A real cell impact of glyphosate-based herbicides residues in food, feed or in the environment has thus to be considered, and their classifications as carcinogens/mutagens/reprotoxics is discussed.

legal limit in the US is 5ppm, btw.

134 posted on 05/30/2013 11:26:31 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

As depressingly common in such “augh! the poison!” studies, no way is suggested of tying dietary levels to in vitro equivalent exposure.


136 posted on 05/30/2013 11:32:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: MarMema
These effects were more dependent on the formulation than on the glyphosate concentration.

That's because the adjuvants are the likely culprit in Seralini's study, not glyphosate itself. If you want to ban all such chemicals, ban detergents.

And what do you know but, Seralini poured those concentrations directly on cells, which has NOTHING to do with true real-world dosages.

The bottom line on Seralini is very simple- his two previous publications in the same area have been reviewed by the Europeans already, and have been found wanting. This is scientific junk at its politically motivated worst.

Roundup products contain an active ingredient (glyphosate) which has extremely low mammalian toxicity as well as a surfactant (detergent) to help penetrate the waxy plant cuticle. It thus comes as no surprise that other components are more toxic to animals than glyphosate- so are table salt, aspirin, and caffeine. All soaps and detergents dissolve fats- that is what makes them work. Naked cells in the bottom of a petri dish are protected only by the cell membrane- made of fats- and guess what- if you put detergent on them, they don't do so well. Monsanto has replicated Seralini's work with a bit more care and variety of materials. While Seralini measures a variety of outcomes (like hormone production) in cell lines chosen more for political value than scientific merit, the bottom line is that detergents disrupt cellular energy production by destroying membrane integrity.

The reality check here is that we all use soaps and detergents all the time- hair shampoo, liquid soaps, laundry detergents, diswashing soaps, etc. Exposure estimates indicate that LESS THAN 1% OF SURFACTANT EXPOSURE COMES FROM PESTICIDE RESIDUES- all the rest of it you are pouring on your dishes, in your washing machine, and over the top of your babies.

Not a problem?? Not a surprise- last I looked you were probably NOT a collection of naked cells living at the bottom of a petri dish and waiting for Dr. Seralini to pour on the Roundup. All those soaps, detergents, and sanitizers are, among other uses, INTENDED to kill those nasty, unprotected lower organisms that thrive on household surfaces!!

A real cell impact of glyphosate-based herbicides residues in food, feed or in the environment has thus to be considered,

Green groups have been funding research to prove that for thirty years. There have been hundreds of studies on glyphosate and it remains among the most benign herbicides available. Don't think those groups don't have the money to fund such work. You can get hysterical about detergent all you want, but you'll have to come up with a list of alternatives I don't think you have, unless you're looking to induce global disease and starvation.

186 posted on 05/31/2013 6:03:24 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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