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If (Navy SEAL) Chris Kyle Had Been a Muslim, We'd Call him an Extremist
New Republic ^ | May 29, 2013 | Isaac Chotiner

Posted on 05/30/2013 10:14:04 AM PDT by Zakeet

Imagine the following scenario: a young Muslim from the Islamic world joins his country’s armed forces to fight an aggressive war against an overwhelmingly Christian nation. He gains accolades for his work as a sniper, executing his job with ruthless efficiency and little remorse. He admits to viewing the war he is fighting through the prism of religion. He gets a tattoo on his arm declaring that he embraces the concept of holy war. When parliamentarians in his own country question the conduct or course of the war, he states, “How would they know? They’ve never even been in a combat situation.” After shooting someone whose widow claims he was holding a Bible rather than a gun, he answers, “I don’t shoot people with Bibles. I’d like to, but I don’t.”

How would this person be described when his story was recounted in the western press? That’s easy: He’d be described as an Islamic fundamentalist—aggressive, dangerous, and intent on evil.

Now let’s also imagine that this man was widely embraced back home: That he became the author of a bestselling book, and served as a symbol of strength used by politicians to pursue their own ends. How would the culture that lauded this man be described? Well, that too is easy. It would be said that this man’s Muslim country was full of fanatics, and, moreover, that fanaticism more broadly was celebrated—or at least not condemned—by large segments of the population.

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The societal failing is deeper than veteran’s care. Here was a man who, as Schmidle puts it, “was deeply religious and saw the Iraq War through that prism.” Think about what that could be possibly mean, and how we would view someone from another culture who had similar sentiments.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; islam; liberalbigot; lifeamongthekufir; navy; specialforces; waronreligion; waronterror
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To: Zakeet

Libs have to go through mental contortions to justify their love for the raging jihadis.


41 posted on 05/30/2013 10:52:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Zakeet
Chris Kyle = hero. Isaac Chotiner = low life piece of shit. BUt he is probably more honest about his beliefs than most liberals (including the president) that secretly despise the military, but would never say it.


42 posted on 05/30/2013 10:52:07 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: petitfour

petitfour ~:”(the neice) She was fresh out of college with her psychology and women’s studies degree from what was once a reputable institution of higher learning. She informed us that men like Kyle suffer from a Jesus Christ complex. I don’t know who they want to fight and to protect them.”

Congradulations , your neice got another degree in “Secular Humanism” ,incidental to her academic achievements.


43 posted on 05/30/2013 10:52:16 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Do not fear the enemy, for they can take only your life. Fear the media, for they will destroy you)
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To: MrShoop
Chris Kyle = hero. Isaac Chotiner = low life piece of shit. BUt he is probably more honest about his beliefs than most liberals (including the president) that secretly despise the military, but would never say it.

How DAAAARE you question my PATRIOTISM!

44 posted on 05/30/2013 10:56:00 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Zakeet
Sigh. The old moral equivalence trick.


45 posted on 05/30/2013 11:06:21 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: Zakeet

Regardless of what faction Isaac Chotiner might belong to, he’s a thumb sucking, mouth breeding, intellectually inbred incompetent.


46 posted on 05/30/2013 11:32:11 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Zakeet

My God. This is the kind of crap that really irks me - though the unavoidable by product of free speech. Please. I’ve read Kyle’s book. Twice. The man acted with all the integrity he could have mustered under many FUBAR’ed ROE’s. My guess is this idiot author never once stood a post. Just like in “A Few Good Men”. All he does is find fault and criticize.

He’ll be the first to dial 1-800-USA-HELP if his interests are threatened though. Grrrr....


47 posted on 05/30/2013 11:35:53 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: Zakeet

The author raises some good points. Unfortunately he does not really discuss them, just raises them.

Reminds me of the old story of the guy who claimed there was no difference between the man who pushes an old lady in front of a bus, and the guy who pushes her out of its way.

After all, they’re both pushing old ladies.

In this case, both men (Kyle and the hypothetical Muslim terrorist) are violent killers. The author is apparently unable to comprehend that violence and killing not in themselves evil. Rather the cause in which violence is applied and the way in which it is applied determines whether it is evil or not.


48 posted on 05/30/2013 11:40:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Zakeet

On Libya:

“We came...We saw...He’s dead...” -Hillary Clinton

Four American’s die:

“What difference does it make!” -Hillary Clinton

And this is the National Reviews hero.


49 posted on 05/30/2013 11:53:20 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Zakeet
Moral Equivalancy gets liberals through their self loathing, hate filled day.

RIP CPO Kyle.

50 posted on 05/30/2013 11:59:27 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: demshateGod

He will eventually receive the wrath of GOD himself... so worry not.

LLS


51 posted on 05/30/2013 12:02:21 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: demshateGod

I speak of chotiner of course.

LLS


52 posted on 05/30/2013 12:02:59 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Zakeet

All Muslims are extremists, so point taken.

Saying Muslim extremist is like saying wet water.

Of course the author here is trying to make some other idiotic point.


53 posted on 05/30/2013 12:15:45 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Zakeet
special forces

Will someone help me clarify this, the Rangers lost their Beret to the left, has the Special Forces lost their name to the left? If everyone is the "Special Forces" then what do we now call the actual Special Forces?

54 posted on 05/30/2013 12:20:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: Zakeet

The writer of this article can say this with a straight face because he is a multiculturalist and moral relativist. He doesn’t acknowledge that moral absolutes exist. In his view all cultures and religions are equal, their moral values are equally good. No religion, culture or society can be defined as superior than any other - in fact, to do so IS the ONE moral absolute these multicultural relativists believe in.

The unpardonable sin to these people is to believe that your religious and moral beliefs are correct and others wrong. Yet, somehow, the fact that they believe that THEIR view of moral relativism and multiculturalism is correct and everyone who disagrees with them is wrong - THAT escapes their notice that that is also an exceptional view. The very thing they decry in Christianity.


55 posted on 05/30/2013 12:22:08 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Sherman Logan
Reminds me of the old story of the guy who claimed there was no difference between the man who pushes an old lady in front of a bus, and the guy who pushes her out of its way.

After all, they’re both pushing old ladies.

LOL, that is a keeper.

56 posted on 05/30/2013 12:22:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: Zakeet

IF Navy SEAL Chris Kyle had been a mohammedan, this isaac hotiner (Dripping Piece Of Excrement) would most likely be cheering him on.


57 posted on 05/30/2013 12:27:00 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (John Winthrop's "City upon a Hill" just became a midden heap. Infested with rats and other vermin.)
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To: Zakeet

The author is a vile little worm undeserving of the freedom that Chris fought to protect.


58 posted on 05/30/2013 12:43:00 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Zakeet

V I O L E N C E SOLVES P R O B L E M S
ISLAM = PROBLEM


59 posted on 05/30/2013 2:32:28 PM PDT by zzwhale
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To: Steely Tom
[This reminds me of those prison inmates who react to harsh words from the COs by shouting “you'd never talk to me that way if you met me on the street!”]

The prison staff wouldn't be in that part of town except maybe to buy some barbecue—to go.

60 posted on 05/30/2013 10:45:40 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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