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Woman Handing Out Samples at Va. Costco Shot by Police After Acting Strangely
NBC Washington ^ | 5/29/13 | Mila Mimica |

Posted on 05/29/2013 5:18:45 PM PDT by jimbo123

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To: Unruly Human
Having been an MP I think that if I and 6 or 7 partners couldn’t handle a girl without having to kill her I’d look for another line of work....

(well..yes!!!!!)

A large number of police should be in another line of work.

That is also an opinion I have heard from a senior instructor at a police Academy. I tend to agree.

101 posted on 05/29/2013 8:19:26 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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It’s being reported that “two deputies” were involved. It also seems that reporters tend to use the terms stun gun and taser interchangeably. Police spokesman said “Taser”.


http://www.leesburgtoday.com/news/update-woman-killed-in-costco-identified-deputy-injured-by-gunfire/article_44732952-c898-11e2-84bc-001a4bcf887a.html

Sheriff’s office spokeswoman Liz Mills said two deputies responded to the store for a disorderly conduct incident after receiving report that a Customer Demonstration Services provider started acting strangely.

On the scene, the deputies gave Scott multiple commands to drop the weapon, but she did not respond, Mills said. At that point, one of the deputies used a stun gun on Scott in an attempt to subdue her. During a briefing on the scene this afternoon, Sheriff Mike Chapman said the taser “did not work.”


102 posted on 05/29/2013 8:29:52 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: South Hawthorne

So far the evidence from the witnesses fails to support your wild theory.

Yes, I am prejudiced against cold blooded murder, by anyone, but especially those that are paid princely salaries to protect us from such things.


103 posted on 05/29/2013 8:32:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jimbo123; a fool in paradise
I blame the anchovies in the pizza!

PS Was the pizza made in China too?

104 posted on 05/29/2013 8:35:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: jimbo123

Stories like this one remind me of The X-Files. Did anybody notice a strange cable guy playing around on the utility poles near this woman’s house?


105 posted on 05/29/2013 8:37:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jimbo123

“Mhai Scott” is a Philippine name. The last name Scott is an Anglicization of the Philippine name “Sikat”, and very popular with Philippinos who have immigrated to the US.


106 posted on 05/29/2013 8:41:04 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: South Hawthorne

Ok genius. In case you have not figured it out, the Police Manuals, the SOP, are THE problem.

Cops are trained to be trigger happy. That is THE problem.

Cops are trained to kill and kill quick. No De-escalation required.


107 posted on 05/29/2013 8:52:56 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: mardi59

Do cops these days have no fricking finesse? Why do they always seem to shoot to kill? You are right, they could have subdued her with pepper spray, a tazer, even a non lethal shot. But no. They have to for the kill. WHat if she was mentally ill? There have been stories in the news about cops killing mentally disabled people acting up. I do not think they have the right to take lives playing judge, jury and executioner.


108 posted on 05/29/2013 9:13:37 PM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: South Hawthorne

Just to round out the argument:

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/05/cops-being-trained-to-treat-cell-phone-as-guns-videos-2659122.html

Justify your training. Legitimize tyrannical, stupid, brutish, thug like behavior. Justify big Gubment. Better yet, go home and gnaw on all that gubment cheese in your pantry. Too many years on the public dole will affect ones judgment to be sure.


109 posted on 05/29/2013 9:15:38 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: jimbo123

This sounds like something that happened in my city about twenty years ago. A patient at a local dentist’s office began acting erratically after receiving a routine anesthetic. They cleared the office and called the cops. Three cops arrived and cornered the guy in a hallway. He pulled out a small object, similar to a nail file, and the three cops proceeded to blow him to kingdom come. The city settled with his survivors for a large amount.


110 posted on 05/29/2013 9:18:05 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: NormsRevenge; jimbo123

Indeed, Costco’s are deadly places...deputies shoot innocent workers (Virginia) and innocent CCW guys (Las Vegas)...

Obviously, we should not shop where there is this kind of danger.


111 posted on 05/29/2013 9:49:44 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh man. maybe she had an allergic reaction to peddling cardboard.

You've never had a take and bake pizza from Costco, have you? They are very good. My favorite is the five meat pizza.

112 posted on 05/29/2013 10:14:00 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: ZULU

They are in Costco! Pick up a damn chair, cop!

I could keep a crazy woman from stabbing me with one of those folding chairs. I could bash her on the head with it too.

Nope, gotta shoot everybody today. Cops are becoming a joke. Shoot first and ask questions later.


113 posted on 05/30/2013 1:45:03 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

How about THEY ARE AT COSTCO. The place with a million heavy bulky objects in all the isles. Throw a table at her legs. Throw a sack of sand at her mid-section. I don’t care. It is not as if there is a lack of any number of long or bulky objects a person can use to ward off a knife weilding whack-job woman.

Throw a TV at her. I don’t care.

No, they shoot first and ask questions later.


114 posted on 05/30/2013 1:50:18 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Shoot first and ask questions later.

When all you have is a hammer, everybody looks like a nail. You are in COSTCO! Go grab a rake or a broom. Nope, gotta shoot first and ask questions later.

Welcome to the modern state of cops. I can’t even call it “law enforcement” anymore. It is a police state.


115 posted on 05/30/2013 1:51:50 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: deks

Nobody carries a baton anymore? You have 8 cops. Nobody can draw a baton and hit her from the side while another cop distracts her?

Look, I’m not talking about stupid movie stuff like shoot to knock the knife out of her hand. An assailant with a knife is extremely dangerous inside 20-25 feet. They can close that gap in two seconds. An assailant on drugs or mentally deficient can be as persistent as they are aggressive. But I’m sorry, Costco has myriad goods they sell all over the store. They have shopping carts everywhere.

A cop can’t just grab a shopping cart and ram her and pin her? I mean WTF? You are telling me among the 8 cops, one of them could not find something to use as a prod, shield, barrier, or anything to use to physicall imair her ability to use the knife. A knife is a contact weapon. Prevent contact and you prevent the attack.

For all I know she was crazed making her stronger and more aggessive. Still, they didn’t have a shopping cart they could use to hold her at bay, or a table, or a shovel or rake or any other object nearby? Pick up a coffee mug and aim for the head? Anything but shoot and kill her?


116 posted on 05/30/2013 2:00:44 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: jimbo123

How dangerous can this dingbat have been in that she only was waving the knife and scissors around in all the time before the cops got there. So she’s waving the scissors and knife around 10 or 15 minutes. Nobody gets stabbed.

The cops go in KNOWING they are approaching a knife wielding potential assailant, and not a single one of them grabs a long item or tool to use to block her from closing in on them?

Are cops just stupid today?


117 posted on 05/30/2013 2:05:30 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Lazy. We have lost some critical thought skills. Reminds me of the first Men in Black where they take the best of the best in to shoot @ the villains.... well,that guy was just blowing his nose, that guy is working out, that little girl out in the middle of the night in a bad neighborhood with physics books, she is up to something.


118 posted on 05/30/2013 2:19:33 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: South Hawthorne
I didn't "purport" to read any police manuals.

What I do "purport" to read are newspapers. Maybe you should start reading more of those.

119 posted on 05/30/2013 6:10:41 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: South Hawthorne

First off, this is my local Costco and either myself or the wife are there with some regularity, so I paid a bit more attention.

Having cops in the family and understanding the difficulties of the job, my usual reaction is to give them the benefit of the doubt in this type of situation. HOWEVER, I do want to hear an explanation as to why 8 cops felt that they were in serious enough danger to fire what is being reported as 6-8 shots in a crowded store. Additionally, the fact that the suspect was hit ONCE and a deputy was wounded by friendly fire in a case where the suspect did not have a firearm, and was presumably at close range, makes me wonder about both the judgment and the marksmanship of our local law enforcement here in Loudoun County.

Just for context, aside from a small portion of Leesburg, Loudoun County experiences essentially ZERO violent crime and has the highest income level in the country. The typical sheriff’s deputy is about 25 years old and spends the majority of his time parked at stop signs looking to hand out tickets for overdue inspections. My interactions with them have always been perfectly pleasant, and they seem to be decent people, but we’re not talking about grizzled beat cops working the South Bronx.

I’ll reserve judgment until all the facts are in, but I think there are some questions to be answered here on first blush.


120 posted on 05/30/2013 6:31:17 AM PDT by Lonely NY Conservative
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