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My mom sent me a link to this column. It's especially funny where he attributes a "low homicide rate" in New York City to making concealed carry permits impossible to obtain. Those New York CCW holders must be different than all others in that they are violent criminals (in the estimation of the stooge leftist author).

In his next point, he attributes Baltimore's hyper-violence to lax enforcement and "Baltimore judges tend not to punish violators even if convicted." I don't know if Baltimore/Maryland permit concealed carry. But it is funny that the leftist thinks more laws are going to change a culture of non-enforcement by leftists jurists who already ignore enforcing current laws.

1 posted on 05/28/2013 1:09:51 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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Yea!sure.So that only the Police have the guns.That way they can peacefully go out of their way and shoot the dogs they just happen to run into.


2 posted on 05/28/2013 1:12:57 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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Sensible gun measures = Owning a gun.


3 posted on 05/28/2013 1:14:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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This writer is a typical leftist moron, immune to the truth.


4 posted on 05/28/2013 1:15:23 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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“Common sense” or “sensible” are COMMUNIST BUZZ WORDS. “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”!!! I am willing to defend the Bill of Rights with my life and if you have plans to steal my rights away... you had better be prepared to do the same.

LLS


5 posted on 05/28/2013 1:15:41 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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6 posted on 05/28/2013 1:16:35 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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Bull Obama.

It must really be sad to be a liberal and find logic that takes more than one step to be beyond their mental capabilities.


7 posted on 05/28/2013 1:17:39 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To the author of the article.

First, if gun restrictions work, explain Chicago?

Second, please define the word “sensible”.


11 posted on 05/28/2013 1:23:42 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Fairfax County VA, where I live, has a homicide rate of about 1 per hundred thousand ~ that's less than half that of New York City.

We have folks walking around with pistols in holsters and operate under a shall issue standard for concealed weapons.

New York City's own mayor came here and engaged in unlawful gunrunning!

The lesson is ~ do not believe any New York politicians about anything. They have a runaway murder rate just like they do in Maryland. Best we remove the bridges over the Potomac to keep them there and out of Virginia!~

12 posted on 05/28/2013 1:26:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sgt_Schultze; Revolting cat!

Sensible voter ID requirements curb vote fraud.

Ball is in the liberals’ court now.


13 posted on 05/28/2013 1:36:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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Almost everything Big-Gov RINOs and liberals do in response to a crime or a terrorist attack ignores the root causes and has the effect of punishing the innocent.

They both like to spin a tragedy to pursue their core agendas but liberals are by far the worst.

Muslim terrorists use aircraft to slaughter 3,000 on 9/11 and the government’s politically correct response is to ignore muslims and strip search innocent Americans at the airport gates.

Crazy people, many on dangerous prescription drugs, commit mass murders and the response is to ignore the mental health issues and take guns away from innocent citizens.

Vicious gang-bangers murder at random in cities like Chicago and Washington and the response is to keep guns out of the hands of innocent citizens.


15 posted on 05/28/2013 1:38:15 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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I agree, all one needs to do to see the effect of strict gun laws, is to look at Chicago.

I do believe in the need to restrict gun sales in certain cases (mainly just convicted felons). And background checks are really the only way to do that.

I think there is a better way to administer background checks. One that would make it possible to insure that a buyer at a gun show, or internet sale, has completed a background check, AND make it harder for the federal government to create a gun registry. Simply move the burden of acquiring the background check from the seller, to the buyer. If you want to buy a gun, you would go to a local law enforcement office, and acquire a certificate allowing you to legally purchase a gun. The certificate would be presented to the buyer at the time of purchase. And strict penalties could be imposed on sellers caught selling a gun to a buyer without a 'background cert'.

This would put more controls on the sale of guns, but the only government involved would be local, who are in my opinion much more trustworthy.
16 posted on 05/28/2013 1:47:03 PM PDT by MMaschin
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"In New York City, gun violence has been dramatically reduced by strong measures at the state level and even stronger measures sponsored by Mayor Michael Bloomberg. These include a measure making it very difficult for individuals to get concealed carry permits. The Supreme Court declined to hear a challenge to that law. As a result, New York City has the second lowest homicide rate in the nation, 2.72 per hundred thousand residents, right behind San Jose."

Then again, Chicago, where it is very difficult to own a gun, has a homicide rate of 15.65 per 100,000 population, about the same as Ghana.

17 posted on 05/28/2013 1:51:29 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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20 posted on 05/28/2013 2:01:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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"New York City has the second lowest homicide rate in the nation, 2.72 per hundred thousand residents,"

Hogwash. Boise, population about 220K, had ONE murder in 2011...and that was a strangulation. Maybe they meant NYC has the second lowest homicide rate among CommieLib cesspool cities.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

21 posted on 05/28/2013 2:03:29 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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Good for you. Go to North Michigan. It's as safe as can be.

What's Carroll County's homicide rate compared to NYC?

23 posted on 05/28/2013 2:21:27 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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Selective enforcement of laws. Firearms violation (possession of a loaded weapon on public street)? Off to prison with you. Raping and robbing? Are you a brother? No problem. See you later. There will be enforcement, just not what you were expecting.
24 posted on 05/28/2013 2:32:53 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Sensible Gun Measures? HAHAHAHAHAHA. When the Chief Executive and the Attorney General decided not to follow the law, so did a lot of other people.


25 posted on 05/28/2013 2:48:23 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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Even if the author is right, which he is most definately not, I would rather the horrible massacres and murders we read about would happen daily than to diarm the citizens for one simple reason. We know for a fact that when a government disarms its citizens, the murder and torture of millions will certainly follow.

We can debate continuously about the best way to deal with terrorism, gangsters, organized crime, workplace violence, etc. But taking away our guns is off the table. Period.


27 posted on 05/28/2013 3:08:22 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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In New York City, gun violence has been dramatically reduced by strong measures at the state level and even stronger measures sponsored by Mayor Michael Bloomberg. These include a measure making it very difficult for individuals to get concealed carry permits. The Supreme Court declined to hear a challenge to that law. As a result, New York City has the second lowest homicide rate in the nation, 2.72 per hundred thousand residents, right behind San Jose.

Total murders in Carroll County, MD, 2 or fewer per year since 2005. Total Carroll County population? over 170,000. Murder rate? Well under NYC's "second lowest rate in the country". As Joe Wilson said (truthfully) to another liberal: You lie! The question isn't how many guns, it's how many guns in the hands of decent people. Baltimore makes it difficult for decent people to get guns, while Carroll County makes it easy.

30 posted on 05/28/2013 3:57:29 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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By this idiot’s logic Chicago should be the safest place in the country. But, of course, we know better.


31 posted on 05/28/2013 4:07:00 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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