Posted on 05/26/2013 5:37:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
David Cameron is planning new powers to muzzle Islamic hate preachers accused of provoking terrorist outrages such as the killing of soldier Lee Rigby.
The Prime Minister wants to stop extremist clerics using schools, colleges, prisons and mosques to spread their ‘poison’ and is to head a new Tackling Extremism and Radicalisation Task Force (TERFOR) made up of senior Ministers, MI5, police and moderate religious leaders.
The high-powered group will study a number of measures, including banning extremist clerics from being given public platforms to incite students, prisoners and other followers – and forcing mosque leaders to answer for ‘hate preachers’.
It will also urge Muslim ‘whistleblowers’ to report clerics who act as terrorist apologists to the police. The launch of TERFOR signals a major overhaul of the Government’s counter-terrorism strategy in the wake of the brutal murder of Drummer Rigby on Wednesday.
A senior Whitehall source said: ‘The PM is determined to challenge the poisonous narrative of extremist clerics and confront religious leaders who promote violence.’
The move comes as:
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He said it just like it is.
Socialism in action.
The problem is not free speech. The problem is terrible immigration policy.
This is like letting a serial killer into my home and then after he murders someone, trying to oppressively restrict what my family is allowed to discuss at the dinner table, as if that were the reason for the murder.
>>Yep, this “hate speech” ruse could be used to outlaw every religion on earth. A very attractive prospect to the obamas of the world.
Exactly. Socialist and communists love to take away freedom in the name of “safety.” The ruse is that they freedoms they take away are only marginally related to the issue. The issue here is not “hate speech.” The issues are Islamism and immigration. But it’s much easier to take away liberty from law-abiding citizens than to tackle the real problems of Islamism and immigration.
The more, the merrier.
‘Violent murderers - End the death penalty.’
Nope. The death penalty was suspended in 1965 and done away with in 1969, when Britain had very very low rates of murder. (the UK still has a low level of murders: 1.2 per 100000, the US is four times that).
‘High crime rate - Gun control. Then knife control.’
I agree the gun laws were kneejerk and myopic. Knife control is a bit of a myth. The rise in crime has been and remains against property, rather than people. Also the high rate has a lot to do with methods of classification, which tends to skew the UK figures to make us look more violent than we are.
Remember UK crime rates were famously incredibly low. And even with rising rates, the UK remains, despite the US hype and myth, a safe/very safe country to live in. I know, I am British.
‘High gas prices - Raise gas taxes’
UK consumers have been complacent over the years, but no more. We no longer accept high prices and high taxes.
‘Print exposes of scoundrels - Create ridiculous libel law.’
Libel law has been around for some time. They arent a new creation as you suggest. And political exposes in the UK usually fail when they try a libel defence. Libel laws in the UK are more likely to be used by celebrities.
A major politician this week won a libel case where a politician’s wife-cum-TV celebrity accused him of being involved in the recent peado scandals in the UK. Rightly, as an innocent man, he sued and won. And will give the winnings to charity.
‘In this case, no effort at all to stop importing violent Muslim agitators, or to kick out the ones they have. Instead, try to force them to behave by nattering at them.’
Not true, although we should be kicking out more. As to nattering, frankly, we have jailed more Islamic terrorists and extremists since Sept 11th than America.
Charlie might not have converted publically, nut he sure said the whole rest of the world ‘ought to’.
I mean I suspect he couldn’t admit it publically or he’d receive a spanking from Queen mommy.
The only reason Cameron is making noises is the threat from UKIP.
Oh, I think you fight back, even as bad as it is. UK has needed a leader, not had one since Margaret Thatcher. Maybe it took something like the Woolwich massacre to wake them up.
Think about the Netherlands. It took the slaughter of Theo vanGogh to wake up the Dutch who have since adopted measures to get the Muslims there under some kind of control.
Methinks the UK would be tougher than the Netherlands. Better than sitting back continuing to just wring their hands. I applaud Cameron for taking positive steps, however limited they may appear to us. It’s more than our POTUS would ever consider.
The death penalty was suspended partly to do with great public and political worries over several famous controversial 1950’s/60’s cases where many believed it wasnt a necessary punishment (Ruth Ellis) or the hanged man was innocent (Timothy Evans, James Hanratty**).
**—ironically, I have read widely on both cases and believe Evans WAS GUILTY and in 2002 DNA evidence showed Hanratty WAS guilty.
No, he didnt. And he hasnt.
Please stop parroting this myth.
No he hasnt. He also deals heavily with Jews, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, but the US media and people here only ever talk about his supposed love of Islam.
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So where can I find accurate information about this conversion issue?
Stupid, but I would point out that the police have 500 officers investigating the murder and they have made several arrests of Muslims in connection to the killing.
Speak to Freeper (and personal friend of Charles) ‘naturalman1975’.
In the end, I think Nigel Farage will gain much power in the UK...as he should.
Speak to Freeper (and personal friend of Charles) ‘naturalman1975’.
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Thank you for sharing this information, but I hope you can understand that, because this is the internet, I have no way of knowing that he is who he claims to be.
I’m not saying that you aren’t being truthful, but, I must respectfully remind you that, for me, you are both user names on the internet and not verifiable.
I prefer sources whose accountability I can research for myself. For example, is there an autobiography? A biography which Charles has approved? Interviews by people whose other works and reputations can be researched?
Thank you, and respectfully,
pax
They will “gag” Christians I bet.
As they should, because Christians are attacking soldiers in the streets. /s
lol
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