Posted on 05/25/2013 3:52:24 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
FPN President Joe Glover issued the following response to today’s announcement that the Boy Scouts of America will permit open homosexuality among troop members:
Glover said:
“The Boy Scouts of America should drop the phrase ‘to God’ and ‘morally straight’ from their oath, since they’ve decided to reject His standards of morality. The Bible clearly states homosexuality is a sin against God, and yet the Boy Scouts of America has decided to allow it.”
(Excerpt) Read more at familypolicy.net ...
Boy Scouts Commit National Suicide
there fixed the Title.
Most adults accept fornication as normal
That may be, but we’re talking about what is the standards taught to under 18 yos. Morally straight used to not include that.
I am sure the corpprate pressure was there, but the corporate culture is under political pressure...
I am sure the corpprate pressure was there, but the corporate culture is under political pressure...
That’s kind of an old testament fundamentalist phraiseeical view....again, awful decision, a fatal mistake in the long run, but I think this was excruciatingly painful for them to make. I reject “kneeling at Satan’s altar” as a description for this.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/boardrooms-are-new-battlefield-gay-rights-835102
From the article:
“Corporate America has found that it’s a smart business decision to stand with the majority of Americans who support gay and lesbian couples,” said Rich Ferraro, vice president of communications at GLAAD. “Companies that actively support anti-gay causes are being met with vocal disapproval from the gay community as well as their friends and families, while brands like JC Penney, Johnson & Johnson and Gap are building loyal consumer bases simply by being inclusive.”
Vocal disapproval. This is what people cave to. Then, he’s wrong about Penney’s, if he means financial growth, and he doesn’t. The article is biased. What he says is Penney’s has built loyalty.
The BSA will have loyalty among the LGBT groups now and with parents too morally cowardly to see that the only place for sex in BSA is/was in teaching boys how to properly manage temptations and to grow into men who will run this country in the future.
Where will they come from now?
What do these corporations care? What does Stephen Spielberg care - it’s in the article.
These guys all have wives, well, the non gay ones. where are the wives in guiding these men in moral issues. I can guess Spielberg’s wife is Oprah-happy about all of this.
THey think it is a victory of gays in that they won’t be harassed. But that’s not the father of this thinking. Harrassment of gays has no place in civil society, but that’s not what’s going on here.
and if and when harassment of people who don’t accept homosexual behavior becomes apprrent, that will be proof.
By your and his standards, about 99% of all churches should drop God from their name, mission statements, etc. The organization made an awful mistake, and they will pay the price in membership, shame, etc. It is a sign of the times and we should push back against it, but demanding a group that is still on the positive side of the ledger drop God from their name is to totally miss the lesson of the first human to enter Heaven post Jesus - the thief on the cross.
I rejected the term “kneeling at whoever’s altar, as well.
BTW, the Old Testament has not been thrown out, as the Pharisees DID meet a proper end for the holier than thou.
I’m just saying I’m following these stories and they tend toward the misfortune for civilizations. If you think what’s going on is a normal trend, fine.
Then we have no disagreement. The social trend line is awful for all the reasons you mentioned.
It’s rhetorical-hypothetical. I held a hope that that would become obvious when pointed out. Yes, Jesus did strongly caution churches about their possible ultimate ignominious fate if they were beginning to get looie.
That’s “Pharisaic”. (ducking)
In seriousness, my son earned his Eagle last year. It was a very proud moment for his whole family when he received his award. He had been working toward that moment for about ten years.
I’m just glad he earned his award before the Boy Scouts deliberately devalued what it means.
Under 18 year olds reject hypocrisy, they see what they see and they learn by others’ actions. Boys are very non verbal, even feminists can’t fix that.
boys learn from all cultural and family attitudes and accepted behaviors, not by a do what I say not as I do mentality. You know that.
Why have an oath at all? Just start each meeting by passing the bong twice around the room, then go straight into Knitting an AR-15.
Children of both genders do. They are spiritual sponges.
You remember the thief on the cross repented, right? Sainthood or redemption happens after death, and at the hour of death.
It’s how there are no saints alive,
Or, less Catholic, it’s how heathens, like all parents, can raise children by example (the best way), constant daily repentance.
The thief is a great example pointed to by theologians, and contrasted by the other thief, often forgotten, who refused to repent. the good thief said he was sorry with remorse and sincerity.
He shows us that’s how it’s done.
they are watching.
Thank You C. for a bit of actual clarity. I’ve had some jerk on another thread accuse me of going over to the dark side and becoming one with “the enemy.” (his words) because I haven’t tendered my resignation as a Scoutmaster and immediately pulled my two sons, one of whom is one step away from Eagle from the program.
What do they need money for? To build Taj mahal like edifices like this one on expensive real estate? This does so much good for the kids, yeah right. That has been the complaint for a long time by many... the people who are Scouting for some reason other than the boys.
https://plus.google.com/107337425780668304521/photos?hl=en
Scouting began dying at least 20 years ago. This is the death rattle. It may go on but not like it was.
So sad, I’m glad Dad is not here to see it. He was a Scoutmaster for most of 25 years and active long after that with the council in building facilities for Scouts. I am sorry I have to see it. Our three Eagles are ashamed.
That’s what the GSA does.
Our church sponsored a GSA group, so we thought we’d give it a shot, realizing they’d gone to the dark side financing abortion groups and all.
The girls got into the car and said no no no, and I quote our girls, “they started the meeting with a pagan chant, it was very creepy and it got worse and it was boring”.
The group we’d previously rejected met on sundays, a sure sign of darkness for any group in its commitment to breaking up the family, getting parents used to that.
http://townhall.com/columnists/cathyruse/2013/05/08/deceit-in-the-boy-scouts-n1590378/page/full
“It has been widely characterized as a “compromise,” but no Boy Scout should be fooled. The tension this incoherent policy would create would make it practically and legally unsustainable, and those pushing the resolution surely know that.
Under the policy, open homosexuality would be officially consistent with the Scouting code throughout a Scout’s career until the moment he turns 18, when it suddenly becomes inconsistent with the code. And then what? No troop leader would want to put himself in the position of enforcing such an irrational rule, and likely few would. A de facto change in leadership rules would occur almost immediately.
But it won’t stop there. This move could forfeit the legal victory the Scouts won at the Supreme Court over a decade ago. When the organization was sued for unlawful discrimination, the Court ruled in Boy Scouts of America v. Dale that the BSA has the right to maintain its membership policy under its First Amendment speech and association rights. But if the Scouts’ new “speech” is incoherent – open homosexuality is consistent with the Scouting code except when it isn’t – there may be no legal basis left for courts to uphold one part of the code over another. It will be a lawsuit nightmare for the Scouts.
The truth is, a vote to allow open homosexuality on the part of scout members is a vote to allow open homosexuality on the part of scout leaders. The executives who drafted the resolution know it. It isn’t the first time they’ve intended to deceive.”
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