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To: Cowboy Bob

It isn’t the birth certificate. That is a red herring. The issue is that Obama claimed to be an Indonesian citizen to get a scholarship at Oxidential College.

The man claimed to not be a US citizen as an adult. Stop looking at him when was 6 days old and look at what he did when he was 18-20


3 posted on 05/21/2013 11:27:31 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Fai Mao
"The issue is that Obama claimed to be an Indonesian citizen to get a scholarship at Oxidential College."

I had not heard that any documents had been confirmed, though there was a record of a foreign scholarship being granted to an Indonesian citizen at about the time of Obama’s admission to Occidental. The issue which will apparently never be addressed given a corrupt media and judiciary is the simple truth that Obama told us, honestly and correctly, that he is a naturalized citizen because he was born to an British father.

Citizenship law is complicated, but in most countries, born citizenship follows the citizenship of the father. For the British, anyone born to a “subject” of the Crown is a natural born subject, and thus Barack is a natural born subject of the British Commonwealth. He said so himself, though omitting the “natural born subject” qualifier. He said “I am a native-born citizen of the US”. The “native-born” part fools some and is a useful diversion for others. American Indians are native-born, but were not made citizen by the 14th Amendment because their allegiance was to a different nation. Obama was made a citizen because he was presumably born on our soil, even if his mother was not old enough to convey her citizenship. He was naturalized by the 14th Amendment.

Naturalization requires sole allegiance to our Constitution. Natural born citizenship, being a “citizen”, not a subject, subjects being very different from citizens, naturally, requires both citizen parents, and having been born on sovereign US territory. That truth is repeated in dozens of supreme court cases, and made precedence in the 1875 case Minor v. Happersett, and treated as precedence in dozens of subsequent cases, including Wong Kim Ark, where Wong Kim is born on our soil, to two domiciled parents, but declared a citizen, not a natural born citizen, by Justice Gray.

Our media, congress, and courts, unable to pass an amendment to Article II Section 1 in time, though they tried, two attempts by Conyers, one by Menendez and one Orrin Hatch, though Hatch was aiming to make Schwarzenegger eligible, and one or two by Rohrabacher, Nickles, and even one by Barney Frank, all between 2000 and 2007 attest to the interest in amending the Constitution. But it didn't happen. McCain like most proposed Republican successors to Obama, Rubio, Jindal, and Cruz, is not a natural born citizen. He was born on unincorporated territory, territory finally made sovereign in 1937, the year after McCain's birth. Obama, his campaign chair Clare McCaskill, Leahy and others signed a resolution, Sen. Res 511, in which all senators said, in effect, the framers would have made an exception for McCain. But Resolutions are not law, and Congress cannot interpret the Constitution.

Obama was born to an alien father. Rubio, Jindal, and Cruz were all born to alien fathers, regardless of where they were born. This writer believes the Republican nobility wants to cover its tracks. I also would not be surprised, if Hillary survives Benghazigate, to see her challenge the eligibility of a Cruz or Rubio. McCain had been the subject of ten years of scrutiny by Democrats; the law was carefully explored, most thoroughly by Professor Gabriel Chin, then at U of Arizona Law School - “Why Senator John McCain Can Never Be President”(sic). McCain provided cover for Obama so both parties participated in the clever “birther” Alinsky operation to silence legal analysis, and probably also contributed to the endless rumors of Kenyan birth certificates and other probably imaginary document. The cover has been very professional, suggesting that Muslim John Brennan's contract with the State Department to maintain its documents was no accident.

You wonder why those who certainly know don't speak? Can anyone doubt what the IRS would do to any public personality, or to the Universities of any Law Professor, or any federal judge, or any noisy blogger who lends his authority to supreme court case law? Few know that Soro’s Center for American Progress CIO engineered the corruption of some twenty six supreme court cases on his associate’s legal reference site, Justia.com. Tim Stanley is Justia’s founder and Carl Malamud was Soro’s employee. They know they broke several laws, and have replaced some of their corrupted copies, and corrected their claim to be providing complete copies of historical cases, and also know they will not be prosecuted.

14 posted on 05/22/2013 2:32:21 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Fai Mao

I would agree...the two years at Oxidental College would have a lot of value if put out in full detail. If you went looking at what Oxidental offered....it probably still offers a Pacific Islander-type scholarship. I’m also guessing that his grades were so bad in the middle of the second year, that they kinda told him that the deal would end at the end of the second year. That’s likely why he moved on and found another scholarship deal at Columbia.


16 posted on 05/22/2013 3:05:20 AM PDT by pepsionice
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