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Please let your Senators and Congressman know how you feel about the IRS, the most hated, most despised, most abusive, most feared government agency by far.

Let them know that an income tax was always unconstitutional.

There is no need to repeal the 16th Amendment in order to pass this bill, as the 16th only authorizes Fedzilla to tax income, it does not require the beast to do so.

The 16th can be repealed by another measure, which we should all let our congressional delegations know that we vigorously support.

1 posted on 05/21/2013 8:10:25 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Westbrook
The problem is that you're going to end up with a national sales tax and a Federal income tax.
2 posted on 05/21/2013 8:13:31 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Westbrook

You can register your vote on this page.

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/s122

Your Senators will be notified of your vote.

Be sure to include your own personal comments, as these officials tend to take such votes more seriously.


3 posted on 05/21/2013 8:13:35 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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I’m all for the Fair Tax, but only if the 16th Amendment can be repealed. I don’t trust this government as far as I can throw it.


5 posted on 05/21/2013 8:14:25 AM PDT by Marathoner (Impeach Obama, Holder, Big Sis, and throw in IL Gov Quinn for good measure)
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To: Westbrook

The irs is not going away. It is the way the government steals money from productive people and gives it to indolent slobs who vote democrat.
It is over half minority, making it one of the biggest welfare organizations around.
It implements laws passed by congress to bring about social change.

Replace it with a national sales VAT tax, and in 5 years we will have both a VAT and an income tax, and both will be used for political purposes.


6 posted on 05/21/2013 8:14:58 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Westbrook
Dont you need another amendment authorizing the Feds to collect a sales tax, even if the delegate the operations to the states?
7 posted on 05/21/2013 8:15:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Westbrook

Not unless the bill bases implementation of the fair tax contingent on repeal of the 16th amendment.


8 posted on 05/21/2013 8:15:31 AM PDT by george123
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They need to publish how much money could be saved by doing this. The IRS alone has over 120,000 employees. Or we could abolish the IRS and put them all on the border where they could shoot paper clips at illegal aliens.


11 posted on 05/21/2013 8:18:41 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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Congress and the federal government should be stripped of the authority to tax individuals. Rather, via apportionment, should only tax the States.

One possible example of how this would work would be to have Congress determine how much tax revenue they will raise via taxes. Then an automatic formula determines how much each state is apportioned. I would advocate for splitting the cost into two buckets, one for the House and one for the Senate. The Senate bucket gets divided by the total number of Senators and each state is apportioned the amount for two Senators. Likewise, the House portion is divided by the number of representatives and each state is apportioned the amount of each Representative times the number of Representatives. States are then left to their own devices as to how to raise that money to pay their apportioned taxes. States with high volumes of natural resources may opt to tax the mining and sale of those resources to pay for their state taxes. Others may wish to use sales taxes or property taxes ... whatever.

This would require a system of punishments for enforcement. This could include things like the loss of votes in committees or perhaps even the loss of votes on the floor.


13 posted on 05/21/2013 8:21:38 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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I am strongly in favor of a national sales tax but only if the IRS and all personal and business income taxes are abolished simultaneously with the establishment of that national sales tax. I do not trust the corrupt thugs in DC to eventually get around to abolishing the IRS.


21 posted on 05/21/2013 8:39:56 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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this is good - the Fair Tax promoted by Neal Bortz is better, IMO.


33 posted on 05/21/2013 9:59:46 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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No way!!! with the current tax law i can hold my taxes to 15%!!

If you’re too damn stupid to read and use the tax code to AVOID TAXES you’re too damn stupid to be voting!


34 posted on 05/21/2013 10:00:05 AM PDT by dalereed
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Keep an eye on this. This must do a couple of things FIRST:

Include a provision that the income tax Amendment is repealed BEFORE the new taxes go in place.

That this does not turn into a VAT.

No exemptions.

Other than that, I approve of a consumption tax over a production tax.


36 posted on 05/21/2013 10:08:54 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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How about, abolish the IRS, don’t replace the income tax with anything, and just shut down the whole damned federal government?


40 posted on 05/21/2013 10:13:05 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Westbrook
Benefits of a National Sales Tax (not a Value Added tax)
- Everyone has skin in the game. Even EBT transactions.
- Exempt only food bought in grocery stores so low income folks aren’t hurt there
- Most states have a sales tax so they are already set up to do it.
- Drug money will pay taxes when the criminals buy a boat or plane.
- Every sale has a receipt of some sort so it is easy to track activity if the tax is not paid.
- Limited IRS to collect sales taxes
- EVERYONE WILL KNOW IF THE TAX RATE IS INCREASED!!!!
- It will be in Congresses best interest to make the economy as strong as possible to have high employment and thus high tax collections.
47 posted on 05/21/2013 10:52:54 AM PDT by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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To: Westbrook
Please let your Senators and Congressman know how you feel about the IRS,
The same ones we let know how we feel about illegal immigration?
The same ones pushing for internet sales taxes in addition to our income taxes?
Are those the Senators and Congressmen you mean?
57 posted on 05/23/2013 2:02:17 AM PDT by lewislynn ( We bet on the black, it came up red.)
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