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Fjordman: Can We Coexist with the Left? (Old but timeless)
EuropeNews ^ | Fjordman

Posted on 05/18/2013 3:59:25 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi

The American writer Lawrence Auster had a debate with his readers regarding the possibility of splitting the USA along ideological lines. According to reader Tim W, modern Left liberalism is a universal totalitarian ideology, not a “live and let live” concept. The goal of its adherents is a world government from which no one can escape.

"Leftists need conservatives but conservatives don’t need leftists. To be blunt, they can’t let us go. We’d be happy to be rid of them, because to us they’re nothing but parasites and/or oppressors. But they can’t get rid of us because we do most of the work, pay most of the taxes, provide the stability and morality that allow their depravity to thrive with less damaging results. Furthermore, the white conservative population is the buffer protecting white liberals from the minorities."

A number of commentators questioned the viability of such a political division. Muslims believe not only that Islam is the best religion, but that it is the only true religion and that all people must be brought into its fold. Likewise, Leftists sincerely believe that Leftism is the only valid ideology, and that the whole world must be brought under its heel. Just like the very existence of self-governed communities outside of Islamic rule is considered an intolerable act of aggression by devout Muslims, so the existence of self-governed non-Leftist communities anywhere, at least if they happen to be white, is unacceptable to Leftist True Believers. They don’t just want to rule themselves; they want to rule everybody else as well.

Good arguments were presented in favor of secession, but opponents point out that attempted partition would likely trigger coercion and force when the ruling oligarchs fear losing control. If the Left sees everything it has promoted for generations about to be overturned it might resort to violence. Above all, opponents questioned whether the whole idea of “just wanting to be left alone” is defeatist and leaves the opponents with the initiative. Perhaps the battle cannot be won until we go on the offensive and take the ideological war to the enemy.

As reality is now, whites are considered potential extremists merely for existing, whereas the most revolting non-white organizations imaginable go free. For example, groups affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which has the stated goal of destroying Western civilization, are labeled “moderates,” whereas whites who want an immigration policy that prevents such people from settling in their countries are demonized as “racist extremists” by the media.

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Bertha Lewis, the chief executive officer of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now or ACORN, spoke in March 2010 before the Young Democratic Socialists conference. There she predicted a USA headed toward violence that will “dwarf the internments during World War II.” Curiously, this statement was hardly reported in the mass media. She said that immigration is a big battle.

"And the reason this is so important is, you know, here’s the secret: (whispering) We’re getting ready to be a majority, minority country. Shhhh. We’ll be like South Africa. More black people than white people. Don’t tell anybody."

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The problem is that extremist left-wing elements have received tacit approval for carrying out violence and intimidation for years. This trend is escalating because of thugs such as the Antifa groups in Western Europe. These Leftist vandals get away with what they do because they know they have the quiet backing of the media and the political elites. Also in 2010, the University of Ottawa in Canada cancelled a speech by the U.S. conservative writer Ann Coulter because organizers feared left-wing protesters would turn violent.

(FULL ARTICLE) http://europenews.dk/en/node/31942


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1 posted on 05/18/2013 3:59:25 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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2 posted on 05/18/2013 4:00:20 PM PDT by narses
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Nobody understands multiculturalism’s dark roots and insidious inner workings better than this guy. He’s the leading intellectual on the subject.


3 posted on 05/18/2013 4:01:50 PM PDT by Viennacon (l)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

We will tolerate them as long as they are kept on a very short leash.


4 posted on 05/18/2013 4:04:11 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Looking at the state of politics and culture in America its hard to fault the writer’s thesis.


5 posted on 05/18/2013 4:05:43 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: AdaGray

They make better pets if you get them fixed.


6 posted on 05/18/2013 4:06:41 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Viennacon

Yeah, I agree with you that Fjordman is perhaps the best voice when it comes to the negative effects of multiculturalism. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Fjordman, here’s a compilation of all his articles sorted both chronologically and by subject matter...

http://chromatism.net/fjordman/fjordmanfiles.htm


7 posted on 05/18/2013 4:08:59 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Quite frankly, no, we cannot, the differences are too stark.

Nothing more need be said.


8 posted on 05/18/2013 4:10:04 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
I think a little rephrasing in the interest of clarity might be useful here: Can free men and women coexist with totalitarians determined to revoke their freedom?

No.

9 posted on 05/18/2013 4:13:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Can you co-exist with cancer? Yes but your well-being has been seriously compromised.


10 posted on 05/18/2013 4:13:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
With Benghazi and the IRS, Obama has been outed.

It is just as though his brothers at Man's Country had posted their obscene videos on youtube of Barry in action in their so-called Presidential Suite.

Americans can now connect the dots between Obama and his unions (in this case the NTEU) and their control of various government agencies (in this case the IRS). We can clearly see how those who warned us of such tyranny were right.

Obama is in fact the perfect example of the kind of tyranny we were warned about. He is the perfect kind of tyranny for which the 2nd Amendment was designed and implemented.

Obama may not know it yet (I am sure he does not...he is so good at denial)...but the jig is up.

The Country and indeed the whole world has all the evidence it needs to confirm that what was once nothing more than ethereal conspiracy theories is now concrete evidence that is being gathered and sorted and prepared for presentation in a Court of Impeachment.

The jig is up Barry.

Get ready for what comes next...you won't like it.

11 posted on 05/18/2013 4:16:14 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
One minor quibble :

Perhaps the battle cannot be won until we go on the offensive and take the   ideological   war to the enemy

12 posted on 05/18/2013 4:16:50 PM PDT by tomkat (solve for x: Baraq = islamite .. islam = enemy ... Baraq = x)
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To: ps

If not stopped, the wet dream of this fascist regime is Bergen-Belsen3.

13 posted on 05/18/2013 4:25:29 PM PDT by tomkat (solve for x: Baraq = islamite .. islam = enemy ... Baraq = x)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

They need our money to support themselves

That is why libtardism is such a bad mental disease.

They are like a parasite that wants to kill their host.


14 posted on 05/18/2013 4:47:55 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: JCBreckenridge; KC_Lion; La Lydia; Mrs. Don-o; PJammers; sinsofsolarempirefan; Belteshazzar; ...

Your opinions, please.


15 posted on 05/18/2013 4:48:12 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: dforest

After ten years in Minnesota, I have concluded that consrvatives and leftists can not coexist. The later is bent on either totalitarian control or annihilation.


16 posted on 05/18/2013 5:00:28 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Furthermore, the white conservative population is the buffer protecting white liberals from the minorities."

Sorry, but just I don't have a big desire to protect white liberals from minorities.

17 posted on 05/18/2013 5:04:25 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: annalex

There is much that Abe Lincoln can be castigated for, but he was correct in saying “A house divided against itself cannot stand; it cannot go on forever being half-slave and half-free. It must become eventually either all-slave or all-free” (or something like that).

Ultimately, (modern day) liberalism and Islam are both dedicated to enslaving mankind - Islam enslaving to the moon god, and liberalism to the State.

If they are not both kicked back to the gates of Hell from which they emmanate, given modern surveillance technology, mankind will descend into millenia of darkness.


18 posted on 05/18/2013 5:10:44 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: annalex
If Christians and conservatives continue to turn their children over to the godless Prog indoctrinators and propagandists the question will be moot. Why?

Answer: Because our nation and freedom as we know it will cease to exist.

Our government's socialist-entitlement and single-payer K-12 schools are our nation's and freedom's MOST serious threat....yet...Day after day Christians and conservatives put their kids under the care of freedom's enemy.

19 posted on 05/18/2013 5:18:38 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: DuncanWaring

It seems that free market and national self-government cannot coexist with the leftwing International.

Can a democracy resist the left?


20 posted on 05/18/2013 5:23:46 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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