Posted on 05/03/2013 10:27:43 AM PDT by Will88
"But what if Romney had been able to reach a mind-blowing 70 percent of the Hispanic vote? Surely that would have meant victory, right? No, it wouldn't. Romney still would have lost, although by the narrowest of electoral margins, 270 to 268. (Under that scenario, Romney would have won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College; he could have racked up huge numbers of Hispanic votes in California, New York and Texas, for example, and not changed the results in those states."
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We'd lost far worse if we hadn't seen the voter registration files purged of all the phony voters, but for someone reason they let Charlie go and forgot about his followers!
The Doug Wilder action could very well have been busted out of the Democrat party every time Webb ran but we had too many Republican GOP-e types imagining that we can't offend any Republican by calling on the black voters to join us!
Yep, I was thinking about Virginia, and also more black votes could shore up NC, Ohio, Indiana, Florida, and a few other states that have moved back-and-forth during the past few presidential elections.
I’ve wondered if Norquist and his crowd think if they keep going left they will peel off a good percentage of the liberal white vote as they become disenchanted with Obama. They MUST know they’ll never get the socialist hispanic vote.
My favorite Norquist quote:“I started out as a right-winger, and when I retire I want to be a squishy middle-of-the-roader,” he jokes, chortling at the thought.
They probably thought ObamaKKKare was going to lit medical care for employees of their backs, but by now they should be completely re-educated!
Someone might make a try.
2014 and 2016: Go White, go Right, or go home.
Because.. half of that extra four percent white vote will go to the dems.
You could make that argument....that whites are staying home. But the bottom line is this: Whites are a shrinking part of the overall population....including the voting population. This especially true here in CA where white are now less than 40% which has had the effect of turning CA into a solid blue state. Not even Ronald Reagan could win in CA with current demographics in this state. And what is happening in CA is happening across the country. And Republicans are being pushed out of all of the metropolitan and urban areas. Here in CA we (Republicans) no longer win in San Diego, the Inland Empire, Fresno, San Jose, Stockton. We are close to losing Orange County, we are now losing in Ventura and Santa Barbara. We get absolutely annhilated in the SF Bay area and LA. But this jusn’t in CA where we are now losing big in urban areas.
Take a look at Texas. Sure it voted GOP in the last election, and probably will for the next several election cycles at least. But there are some warning signs: Whites are now just under 50% of the population in TX. Wiit unti whites are below 40% in Texas, you will see that state turn purple then red. In the last election, Obama carried Harris County (Houston) and Dallas County-—the state’s two biggest counties——GWB and RR easily carried both these counties back in the day. The GOP vote in Texas as in CA is being pushed out of the big metro areas and into the hinterlands. Here in CA nearly all of our (few remaining) GOP elected legislators (congressmen, assemblymen, state senators) com from remote and rural corners of the state as the Party has been effectively pushed out of all of the coastal areas and big metro areas. I see the same thing happening in Texas and elsewhere. I am not in favor of compromising our conservative principles. I am adamantly opposed to illegal immigration and have witnessed first hand how it has destroyed my once great state. I am concerned about the GOP’s weakness in most of our nation’s urban areas and I do believe the US is going the way of Europe. And I wish we could reverse these disturbing trends. Not even a pro-business articulate candidate promising progrowth tax cuts and decent private sector jobs and energy independence can win any more. It is all about the raza and all about who can promise to give away the free stuff at the expense of others. It is all about reparations baby——here in obamanation.
I meant to say Texas will turn blue.
I don't know. I can't see any real libs voting Republican under any circumstance.
I've said that the swing vote which put Obama in office was the white guilt vote. By that I mean those white voters who are independents, or moderates, or whatever we call those who still might move back-and-forth from one presidential election to the next - those voters voted for Obama out of white guilt. It just felt so good to vote for a black guy.
I think those voters might come to their senses and vote Republican next time. And I still think many conservatives have stayed home the past two elections.
But I think Norquist and his ilk have just bought into a line of thinking that they have to pander and compete with the Dims for all sorts of group votes, and that that strategy will mostly lose more and more conservative voters.
About 1/3 of the Hispanics in the US are here illegally, but those illegals appear in or census counts and in all the demographic analyses and projections. And that is why they are about 14% of the population and only about 7% of the voters.
That’s why amnesty or not is so critical. It would bring a net of several million new Dim voters.
But you live in California and tend to think the rest of the nation is just a few years behind. Actually the Latino population is still very small in most states and they are not the swing voters who determine all elections.
And some of the most reliably Dim states are 85% plus white. One wonders if they will ever give up their leftest world view: Wisconsin, Minnesota, most of New England and others.
I’m not talking about increasing the number of white people by 4%, I’m talking about convincing 4% more of the existing ones to get out to the polls and vote for us. Is that not possible? Have we just given up on selling our message to the public?
Hispanics have dramatically increased their numbers in a lot of states including TX, NM, FL, AZ, CO, NV, and others-—they aren’t as concentrated in CA as they used to be. In fact as CA’s economy has worsened in recent years many have left the state.
And 1/3 of them are illegal.
We’re seeing the same dynamic here in Virginia. Since 1964, Virginia was a reliable pro-Republican state at the national level, governors notwithstanding. Then, immigrants started rolling in the northern part of the state back in the 1990s. You can travel parts of Falls Church and be convinced you’re not even in America anymore.
Additionally, property developments and suburban sprawl up there attracted much of the government worker base from the DC area, Maryland, and as far away as Pennsylvania. The big warning signs we saw came in 2004, when Bush trailed throughout most of election night until he finally pulled ahead when Richmond County and Hampton Roads tabulated their vote totals. The first big bombshell came in 2006, when George Allen was upended by Jim Webb in his first try for reelection. While, we know about the impact from the “macaca” incident, the fact was a single word could sway the relatively small number of voters needed to tip a vitally important election.
The 2009 (gubernatorial) and 2010 (Congressional) elections gave some hope that a red-state turnaround was in the offing, but the results of 2012 put that notion to rest. GOPers still do somewhat well Hampton Roads, but the numbers are narrowing, and barring miracles, it’s gotten nearly impossible to overcome the dems’ totals in Fairfax County, the beltway region, Norfolk and Newport News. This was clearly evidenced by the state’s 13 EVs going to Obama.
Like the states you mentioned, Virginia is looking particularly troubling. The 2014 elections are going to draw in the supporters of that pathetic sock puppet Mark Warner, so the pro-GOP tilt may not be pronounced at all.
Yes, I know a lot what you are saying about VA. My grandparents (RIP) used to live there in northern VA and I am very familiar with your state. It is quite true, VA no longer even seems like a southern state anymore. You are lucky though to have a pro-business state government. Some say your governor has now become a RINO-—but compared to what I’m stuck with in CA he looks VERY good. Remember I got Gov. Moonbeam and I’m also stuck with Boxer, Feinstein, Pelousy and Maxine. Yes, VA has turned purple, some might even say blue after voting for Obama twice. I am keeping a close eye on your gubernatorial election this yers-—Love Cuccinnelli ( I probably mispelled his name). I could care less what happens in NJ this year.
I hear ya, but that involves pulling them back from their perceived comfortable climes of liberalworld. Large percentages of Americans have become slothful and dependent on government handouts, and will vote for whomever keeps the gravy train rolling. The numbers of hispanics are growing rapidly as well -- these are people who think and act in a collective sense, not individual, so -- like the blacks -- they tend to support who their leaders instruct them. Hate to be a bucket of cold water here, but the demographic changes are not in our favor.
Supporting white priorities will expose the GOPe to withering criticism from the MSM that they don't know how to rebut without sounding "insensitive."
So they literally have no idea what to do, now.
If something doesn’t break the hold the Karl Rove types now have on the GOP national party, then they have little hope of winning the presidency again in the foreseeable future.
To get more conservatives back into the active fold of the party, about all they have to do is stop pandering to groups and: be pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, be fiscally conservative, don’t award illegal behavior with amnesty, and generally uphold the conservative values the party upheld in the past. And they don’t have to be strident and over-the-top in doing it.
And stop insulting and excluding Tea Party types and Palin supporters from the party functions such as the Romney convention.
Those steps might lose a few RINO votes, but those would be in mostly deep blue states.
Then we are screwed forever.
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