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When He Talks Abortion, President Obama Pretends to Be a Libertarian
The Atlantic ^ | Apr 29 2013 | Conor Friedersdorf

Posted on 05/02/2013 4:07:23 PM PDT by presidio9

Addressing Planned Parenthood last week, President Obama made what must be one of the least self-aware statements of his tenure. "Forty years after the Supreme Court affirmed a woman's constitutional right to privacy, including the right to choose, we shouldn't have to remind people that when it comes to a woman's health, no politician should get to decide what's best for you," he said. "No insurer should get to decide what kind of care that you get. The only person who should get to make decisions about your health is you."

It's no secret that

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; healthcare; individualmandate; libertarian; libertariandumasses; obama; obamacare; plannedparenthood; zerocare
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To: TArcher
Are Dick and Barry “noobs”?

I'm not sure? Did they sign up for FR six months ago and then suddenly jump ass first into an ongoing conversation with a referrence to a random and completely unrelated thread from seven years ago?

121 posted on 05/19/2013 6:03:42 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: jersey117
Not more in line with Gosnell. He is completely in line with him. Obama voted against a Born Alive Infants Protection Act in 2002.
122 posted on 05/19/2013 6:07:26 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Was Herman Cain a “noob”, or just pretending to be a conservative?


123 posted on 05/19/2013 6:08:32 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

Someone, somewhere, must have told you once that you were interesting. You may have me confused with that person. Make your point, or don’t, I’m not here to do an interview with you.


124 posted on 05/19/2013 6:11:47 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Was Herman Cain’s campaign manager conservative, or was he just pretending too?


125 posted on 05/19/2013 6:13:35 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
Was Herman Cain’s campaign manager conservative, or was he just pretending too?

You seem very confused and/or disoriented to me. It sounds to me like you were having a conversation with someone about either Herman Cain, his manager or former Vice President Cheney. It wasn't me, and it certainly wasn't with anyone else on this thread that I know of. Personally I have no idea who Herman Cain's campaign manager is or was. Or even if he had one. If he did, he/she probably won't be hired by any other candidates in the near future.

Actually, it had to have been a "he" if you really think about it.

Are you sure you're on the right website?

126 posted on 05/19/2013 7:31:12 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
Confused.  LOL, Well I'm just trying to understand how it is that you were one of Cain's vocal supporters on FR
 
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=presidio9+"Herman+Cain"
 
and, having (bloviously) "posted 8000 articles", you can't tell us if Herman Cain's homosexual campaign manager, Scott Toomey, was pretending to be conservative or not.
 
 

127 posted on 05/19/2013 7:52:10 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
Confused. LOL, Well I'm just trying to understand how it is that you were one of Cain's vocal supporters on FR

Not sure where you're getting that from. If anything I was a Gingrich supporter. But thanks for taking such an interest in me.

128 posted on 05/19/2013 8:15:01 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

"I was a Herman Cain supporter right up until the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel interview where he demonstrated an alarming lack of familiarity with foreign policy issues. I could care less whether he did or did not have an affair."
33 posted on 05/17/2013 1:52:51 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3020781/posts?page=33#33

 
"I could care less whether he did or did not have an affair."
 
Hmm. Adultery.  Conservative?  NOPE.
 
Or perhaps that was some liberaltardian hacker pretending to post as presidio9 and, not pretending to be conservative?

129 posted on 05/19/2013 8:45:22 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
I'm still scratching my head on how this has anything to do with Obama/abortion/libertarianism or seven year old threads, but since you brought it up, what you actually said was:

you were one of Cain's vocal supporters on FR

Which I was not. But you might know that if you were here at the time. By all means go ahead ahead and back research all 30,000+ posts of mine if it gets you off.

If you must insist on hijacking this thread, let me help you out a bit: What I actually was a year ago (and before that if you must know) was a very vocal Gingrich supporter. That is not to say I did not also support Bachmann, Santorum, Perry for a while, and, yes even Cain. But Gingrich was always my horse, and my real candidate was "not Romney". See for yourself dumbass. I believe I may have coined the term.

Obviously I am have never been down with conservative litums tests. As a matter of fact, I find them idiotic. So, again, I know you're trying to be cryptic (something you have mistakenly confused with being clever), but if you have a point to make, make it.

130 posted on 05/19/2013 11:39:34 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
"I could care less whether he did or did not have an affair."

Is is your ambivalence toward adultery more pretentiously conservative or less pretentiously conservative than Dick Cheney's support of the homosexual agenda?
131 posted on 05/20/2013 5:26:51 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
Is is your ambivalence toward adultery more pretentiously conservative or less pretentiously conservative than Dick Cheney's support of the homosexual agenda?

What part of this statement are you having trouble understanding:

"Obviously I have never been down with conservative litums tests. As a matter of fact, I find them idiotic."

Perhaps I can help.

132 posted on 05/20/2013 5:30:39 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

So you believe you can be ambivalent to adultery, support the homosexual agenda — and still be conservative?


133 posted on 05/20/2013 5:40:23 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
I believe you can be a lot of things and still be conservative. I also believe that while libertarianism and conservatism often fall under the same "Republican" umbrella, that vastly different political philosophies who reach common conclusions by different paths.

That being said, you would not find me advocating in favor on adultry on this conservative political website. Furthermore, I don't endorse or support adultry. It's just not that high on my list of negatives when picking political candidates. All things being equal, I would favor the non adulterer.

134 posted on 05/20/2013 5:48:06 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

So that’s a YES - you believe you can be ambivalent to adultery, support the homosexual agenda — and still be conservative.


135 posted on 05/20/2013 5:56:08 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
So that’s a YES - you believe you can be ambivalent to adultery, support the homosexual agenda — and still be conservative.

If you are asking whether there are nominal conservatives who support gay marriage, but otherwise endorse conservative policy, undoubtedly there are. But that does not therefore make gay marriage a conservative position.

136 posted on 05/20/2013 6:00:22 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

See, there you go Bloviating again.

There’s no IF.

That’s a YES - you believe you can be ambivalent to adultery, support the homosexual agenda — and still be conservative.

Could a homosexual be a conservative POTUS?


137 posted on 05/20/2013 6:07:09 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
You are losing me. I have many gay friends. I can tell you from experience that they tend to favor liberal politics.

I will rephrase your question to help you out. It appears to be in two parts:

1) Is it possible to be gay and conservative?

Answer: Yes, there are undoubtedly gay conservatives.

2) Could a homosexual be elected president if he were otherwise conservative?

Answer: There is no law against it, but I don't think he would be likely to win the nomination.

138 posted on 05/20/2013 6:12:36 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

That’s a YES - you believe you can be ambivalent to adultery, support the homosexual agenda — and still be conservative.


139 posted on 05/20/2013 6:27:31 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
I'm pretty sure you're getting ready to make your point any day now, right?

And as I have never advocated for gay marriage (or "the homosexual agenda" -if you must) I am scratching my head about what it has to do with me, abortion or libertarianism.

140 posted on 05/20/2013 6:30:03 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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