Posted on 04/30/2013 5:33:37 PM PDT by markomalley
Former GOP vice presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., now supports the rights of gay Americans to adopt children, though he still believes marriage “is between a man and a woman.”
In a town hall meeting with constituents in Wisconsin on Monday, the House Budget Committee chairman said he has changed his mind on the adoption issue, even though his opinions on other aspects of gay rights have remained unchanged. To date, two Republican senators — Rob Portman of Ohio, who had been in the mix for Mitt Romney’s No. 2 spot, and Mark S. Kirk of Illinois — have come out in support of gay marriage.
“Adoption, I’d vote differently these days. That was I think a vote I took in my first term, 1999 or 2000. I do believe that if there are children who are orphans who do not have a loving person or couple, I think if a person wants to love and raise a child they ought to be able to do that. Period,” Ryan said in a video posted by the liberal website Think Progress. “I would vote that way. I do believe marriage is between a man and a woman, we just respectfully disagree on that issue.”
Ryan’s move to support gay adoption is a particularly interesting one, given his continued national ambitions and Portman’s reversal on gay marriage. Portman announced in March that his college-aged son, Will, is gay and that he could no longer oppose marriage equality.
In the past, Ryan has opposed almost every equality measure, getting a “0″ on the Human Rights Campaign’s most recent Congressional scorecard. He opposed the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” supported the Defense of Marriage Act and voted against the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Protection Act, which expanded federal hate crime laws to protect the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community.
In his remarks Monday, Ryan said he has “always supported” civil unions. Though there is no evidence to support that, it’s a clear sign that the politics of the issue have changed and that even the most conservative Republicans need to appear more hospitable to gays and lesbians in order to expand their voting bloc.
“I’ve always supported things like civil unions where you ought to be granted certain legal privileges to be able to have benefits whether it’s estate planning benefits or visitation and things like that,” Ryan said.
But a story published by The Advocate, a gay and lesbian news magazine, when Romney named Ryan to his ticket, noted that Ryan supported a Wisconsin-based ban on gay marriage and civil unions in 2006.
“Reviews of Ryan’s record indicate that he has voted overwhelmingly against LGBT rights. He voted twice for the federal constitutional amendment against same-sex marriage, and supported the ban on same-sex marriage and civil unions approved by Wisconsin voters in 2006. Ryan voted against “don’t ask, don’t tell” repeal and hate crimes legislation, but he voted for the Employment Non-discrimination Act in 2007, when it included protections for sexual orientation but not gender identity,” the report said.
Given that the states have never delegated to Congress via the Constituiton the specific powers to regulate either adoption or marriage, the Founding States having made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitution’s silence about such issues means that they are uniquely state power issues, federal legislator Ryan seems to be politicking as follows. He seems to be exploiting widespread voter ignorance of the Constitution’s division of federal and state government powers, just like Obama did, possibly positioning himself for his party’s nomination for president.
ping to 37 - from introduction:
Since this question relates to the natural moral law, the arguments that follow are addressed not only to those who believe in Christ, but to all persons committed to promoting and defending the common good of society.
Ryan can go join the Dems and take Rubio with him.
The idea that children are better off adopted by "anything", than they would be if not adopted is illogical. It suggests that nothing is worse than a children's home or a foster arrangement.
No mikey, most of us disagree with you and are against homosexuals adopting children.
Children raised by homosexuals have terrible, terrible problems. Many studies have shown this. Much more likely to be sexually molested, become homosexual themselves, turn to drugs/alcohol, relationship problems, behavior and school problems, etc. Why should any children be raised by mentally ill sex perverts? You think that’s a decent plan?
There are countless numbers of normal married couples wanting to adopt and there are not enough children due to abortion. So the argument that “any” “parents” are better than none is specious and deceitful of Ryan. He’s either incredibly stupid and ignorant or loathesome. I don’t care which, I thought he was a decent VP candidate and boy oh boy was I wrong.
Our choices for presidential elections have been:
D: Virulent steaming hot poison that acts very quickly
R: Lukewarm poison that doesn’t taste quite as acrid and kills just a little slower
That’s it.
I will never vote for the lukewarm poison ever again. It’s not worth the stamp, or the gas to drive to town to put it in the box. Or the sick feeling.
That is just rich from them...the same church that has ruined more millions more kids lives through violence and abuse than gay parents could ever have a chance to dream of...
What I believe Norm is saying and I agree with is:
It’s better to have Obama taking away our liberties so that the democrats get the back lash, than to have Republicans taking away our liberties.
Romney’s policies were the same as Obamas. Obamacare was based on Romneycare. Romney promoted known homosexual activists to the judicial branch. Romney passed gun control legislation. Romney was a weathervane on abortion. Romney ran on the same hope/change platform that Obama did.
There was no difference. So if liberal polices were going to be implemented, then let the Democrats who claimed to stand for liberal policies do it, rather than the republicans.
Pretty well sums it up. Your facts are not arguable, though many try. But you are indeed right.
I've pretty much decided that these "conservatives" crossing over to the dark side are not worried about campaign donations. They must be getting welfare related kickbacks, or something. For every dollar going towards welfare, Congress probably skims off 10% for themselves.
I've pretty much decided that these "conservatives" crossing over to the dark side are not worried about campaign donations. They must be getting welfare related kickbacks, or something. For every dollar going towards welfare, Congress probably skims off 10% for themselves.
“Adoption by homosexuals is worse than nothing, i.e., foster care or orphanage.”
I’m not convinced..... but then again I don’t subscribe to the fact that all homos are raging perverts.
I am not a Catholic but I object to that baseless villification of the Catholic Church. It’s insane, actually. Maybe you shoudl start your own “Why the Catholic Church is evil” thread.
Ok then. One more Republican that will never get elected as President...
Why Mr Ryan, would you place a child with 2 or more perverts?
“You really want to claim the GOP did a damn thing to stop him on FR?”
My comment was to you not to FR....
A homosexual is BY DEFINITION A PERVERT!
What on earth????
Same sex sodomy is perversion! By dictionary definition! It used to be called the crime against nature!
Are you that ignorant???
Funny, that 's a similar argument from some abortion lovers. If a child does not have a loving person or couple, it is better for it never to be born. Will that be your next "evolution," Paul?
I used to like Paul Ryan.
Look, children raised by homosexuals have a much higher rate of being sexually molested, plus a host of other problems.
You’re fine with that? You honestly believe that all homosexuals aren’t “perverts” or is it just not “raging perverts”?
Homosexuals are never monogamous, btw. Even when “married”. And 1/3 of all child molestation is same sex - aka by homosexuals. That means nothing to you?
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