What sin? Prove sexual activity is taking place. It can’t be done without witnesses. You are missing my point entirely that most churches are on record saying the sinner is loved and accepted while the sin is hated. There is no objective evidence of sin in this case, only putative inference. It’s an interesting legal conflict.
I really don’t give a rats south side how you would decide the matter; like mine your opinion of how the courts will rule means nothing. Less even.
not to butt in here, BUT ... if the fired teacher had her mother’s obit list her lesbian partner as such, there is a public profession, a proclamation if you will, of a relationship that is presumed to be sexual in nature.
Whether it’s sin or not, whether they engage in homosexual activity or not, the teacher engaged in what her employer and her employment contract consider dismissable amoral behavior.
Why do you claim the school/diocese would have to prove with witnesses, apparently eye witnesses in your view, that they actually engaged in homosexual behavior when they have published it existence?
You don’t have a point. If I may be so bold, you are pointless on this matter.
Your legal qualifications are nil, they are even less than mine since you lack basic reading comprehension. So let me take you by the hand and explain it to you like a first grader since you seem to be unable comprehend a simple statement of fact:
1)She was mentioned in an obituary as a survivor of her mother along with her lesbian partner Julie.
2)An anonymous letter was written to the Diocese of Columbus, HER EMPLOYER. It stated that she was involved in a lesbian relationship and publicly stated a long time sexual relationship with Julie. The Obituary was offered as proof of said relationship.
3)She was confronted about her ‘living arrangement’ and her ‘public admission’ in the obituary as being a member of an active lesbian relationship. A serious MORAL FAULT in the eyes of the Church, HER EMPLOYER!
4)She admitted that she was involved in a committed lesbian relationship with her lover Julie and lived together and would continue to do so. Which is her right.
5)She was fired FOR CAUSE under the EEOC Exemption for ministerial employees in a religious institution. As is the Churches right.
6) This is an exemption that was held as proper 9-0 by the Supreme Court of the United States in the HOSANNA-TABOR EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH AND SCHOOL v. EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION ET AL. They specifically sighted the FIRST Amendment as inviolable in regards to the Church’s right to chose who they employ as ministers in their schools and as a Church they are also allowed to decide WHO IS A MINISTER.
7) The Roman Catholic Church, as MOST religious institutions and schools do, consider all their employees as ministers in the Church.
8) She will bitch and moan and cry that the mean old nasty Catholic Church is too mean to allow her to indoctrinate CHILDREN through her immoral lifestyle. Children who have parents that pay thousands of dollars a year to have their children instructed in Catholic Moral teachings. Boo-Hoo! I am a victim of the Mean old Catholics.
FU@K her, she isn’t in charge of the Church. They don’t sweat or fear her, the City of Columbus, the State of Ohio or even Barack Commie O’Bumbler.
They outlasted Nero, Henry the VIII, Robespierre and a rouges gallery of malcontents a lot tougher than them.
It is a losing case for this woman and for the City of Columbus, and they know it. They will not file charges, they will not win if they file a civil lawsuit. That is just the fact of the matter.
They KNOW FOR A FACT that they would not only lose but lose BIG TIME! They would also open themselves up to a very costly counter suit, AND THEY KNOW IT! That is why they will go no farther than jaw-boning for this dyke.
Read the case and the analysis. It is settled law. They do not have to PROVE she is involved in sin, SHE ADMITS to it. She doesn’t deny that she is an active lesbian.
Lesbian activity and the public stance that it is a moral good is in the eyes of the Church a sin. According to the SCOTUS, their eyes are the only ones that matter in the case of employment in their schools. The fact that she espouses a contrary position on a moral teaching of the Church publicly, IN ITSELF, is reason enough for LEGAL termination with cause.
She is gone! She knows it, her ambulance chasing lawyer knows it, and so does the City of Columbus legal representatives. They aren’t going to touch it with a ten foot pole.
As far as hard proof, that hair cut is proof enough!
As an aside: I love Muir Woods, I asked my wife to marry me when we visited Muir Woods.